Legalities of 10/22 bullpup stocks

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So I'm looking for some clarification on the legalities of 10/22 aftermarket bullpup stocks. It was my understanding that bullpups stocks are generally illegal here in Canada but I came across a couple from two large American online retailers that strangely enough say that they are legal for export to Canada. When I asked them about it the response I got in writing was "it is legal otherwise we would not be able to ship it to Canada".

Am I missing something here? Does the bullpup law not apply to rimfire rifles? Or are these stocks not truly bullpup designs?

Here are the links to the stocks in question:

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-forend-parts/rifle-stocks/ruger-muzzlelite-bullpup-stocks-prod8736.aspx?avs|Special-Filters_1=Available%20Outside%20USA

http://www.sportsmansguide.ca/net/cb/red-jacket-firearms-zk-22-drop-in-bullpup-stock.aspx?a=1128106

Does anyone know for certain? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Bullpup conversion stocks are prohibited. Period. Regardless of what an American retailer tells you. It may be legal on the US side for them to send it to you, but they aren't here in Canada, and possession here us a no no.
 
Gotcha. Thanks. They should really take it off their site then. But I guess they don't really care.
 
H Wally said:
I would presume he's referring to the bit about it being legal to ship to Canada.
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Lol yes that's what I meant. Thanks. Thought that was obvious.

Brownell's has it listed as "Available outside USA" and sportsmanguide has it listed actually on their .ca webpage. That coupled with the fact that they are telling people it's legal in Canada seemed misleading to me. So I posted on here since there are lots of organization members and LEO who have way better and updated knowledge than me. I'd rather ask a "dumb" question then find out a different way.
 
SWAT said:
Lol yes that's what I meant. Thanks. Thought that was obvious.

Brownell's has it listed as "Available outside USA" and sportsmanguide has it listed actually on their .ca webpage. That coupled with the fact that they are telling people it's legal in Canada seemed misleading to me. So I posted on here since there are lots of organization members and LEO who have way better and updated knowledge than me. I'd rather ask a "dumb" question then find out a different way.
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It was definitely good for you to ask here. The laws in Canada are tricky and often vague or unclear... But to be clear, it is perfectly legal for Brownells to ship that stock from their warehouse in the US to Canada. They are an american company and are not violating any US laws by doing so. The onus is on the importer to ensure that he is not violating his country's laws. Brownells ships all over the world, it is not their responsibility to make sure that the importer complies with the laws of the country to which they are importing. Brownells only concern is compliance with US law.
 
krausb said:
It was definitely good for you to ask here. The laws in Canada are tricky and often vague or unclear... But to be clear, it is perfectly legal for Brownells to ship that stock from their warehouse in the US to Canada. They are an american company and are not violating any US laws by doing so. The onus is on the importer to ensure that he is not violating his country's laws. Brownells ships all over the world, it is not their responsibility to make sure that the importer complies with the laws of the country to which they are importing. Brownells only concern is compliance with US law.
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Makes total sense. Thx for the clarification.
 
Strangely enough i've been trying to get a green laminate stock from the states big no no on that model, on the other hand every single bullpup model you can find a site willing to ship to Canada, guess we are similar to the states afterall both are regulations make no sense
 
Unfortunate, as the Red Jacket ZK-22 looks pretty slick ...

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I wish someone would manufacture a 10/22 bullpup (not a drop in stock). As long as it were integrated it would be ok, but i guess the market demand wouldn't be big enough as this would only be beneficial to the Canadian market.
 
When a product is listed as "available for export," it simply means that the manufacturer has completed the necessary ITAR and BATF paperwork to export their products. Distributor's like Brownell's keep track which companies have the proper export permits and for which products... Whether a product can be exported or not is up to the original manufacturer not the distributor. In addition, just because a product can be "exported" does not mean that it can be "imported." It is the responsibility of the importer to know the laws that apply in their own country related to that particular product. Packages can be seized by customs and you will forfeit your money and product... And if it does "slip through" you may well find yourself in possession of a prohibited device... You don't want to have to be "looking over your shoulder" every time you go to the range.
 
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