Legality of airgun suppressors

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The consensus seems to that they are illegal, but I don't see how if they are designed for and used solely on non firearm classified airguns. Some co2 powered guns (like a crosman 2240) are surprisingly loud and could benefit from a sound suppressor...

What's the definitive word on this?
 
The consensus seems to that they are illegal, but I don't see how if they are designed for and used solely on non firearm classified airguns. Some co2 powered guns (like a crosman 2240) are surprisingly loud and could benefit from a sound suppressor...

What's the definitive word on this?

Illegal

The first thing i was told when i phoned before moving To Canada from UK was dont bring the suppressor its illegal, of course i had no idea it was illegal and I am glad i did call to because it was inspected when it arrived in Canada.

Theoben Rapid 7 (comes with supressor from factory)
 
Having moderators/silencers illegal ,makes as much sense as banning auto mufflers so the pedestrians can hear you coming! JMO ........they are legal in most of the rest of the world UK etc.........Harold
 
The difinitive word is that they are illegal, because all suppressors are illegal, regardless of what you feel they were designed for. If it in any way could possible be attached to a firearm and would make said firearm quieter, then it is illegal. Kinda makes you look around your house and see all of the potentially illegal stuff....pop bottle and duct tape, towel and a rubber band, a pillow, etc, etc....
 
The difinitive word is that they are illegal, because all suppressors are illegal, regardless of what you feel they were designed for. If it in any way could possible be attached to a firearm and would make said firearm quieter, then it is illegal. Kinda makes you look around your house and see all of the potentially illegal stuff....pop bottle and duct tape, towel and a rubber band, a pillow, etc, etc....

Oil filters....... :evil:
 
The difinitive word is that they are illegal, because all suppressors are illegal, regardless of what you feel they were designed for. If it in any way could possible be attached to a firearm and would make said firearm quieter, then it is illegal. Kinda makes you look around your house and see all of the potentially illegal stuff....pop bottle and duct tape, towel and a rubber band, a pillow, etc, etc....

Yes but unless the bottle was taped onto the barrel or was locked in your pistol case all together, the possession of all those things is inconsequential. Apparently an oil filter works pretty good too according to you-tube....and is also illegal. I've been looking on the RCMP website for Prohibited devices fact sheets but their search engine sucks! I've found news articles pertaining to the seizure of silencers,the apprehension of individuals who have had them but not the laws concerning them. I know its there as I've read it before, but they hide the damn things so you can't find it. Typical bureaucratic efficiency I suppose.
 
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Any device that masks the report of a gunshot is a prohibited device. Stupid but it's the law. You can't even put it on airguns now there are a few non restricted airguns that have sound suppression built into them and they were classified as non restricted they were 1200fps and it was built into the barrel. They said it was ok because it was part of the design of the rifle it self not something that was put on after the fact. It's kind of weird if you ask me how they go that's ok but something else isn't and other air rifles with it on it aren't ok.
 
I hate to put it this way but, if they were legal then people would be more likely to use airguns where they weren't supposed to. I''ll guarantee that would happen because I would probably be the first, if I knew the chance of being heard was eliminated I would be shooting in the back yard all the time as I'm sure would others.
 
From the criminal code;

“prohibited device” means

(c)#a device or contrivance designed or intended to muffle or stop the sound or report of a firearm,

The problem I'm having is that an air gun under 500 fps is not a firearm... How can a suppressor for an airgun under 500fps be prohibited?
 
I hate to put it this way but, if they were legal then people would be more likely to use airguns where they weren't supposed to. I''ll guarantee that would happen because I would probably be the first, if I knew the chance of being heard was eliminated I would be shooting in the back yard all the time as I'm sure would others.

shoot cci quiet ammo and go hmm don't need a silencer and more energy behind it then an air gun.
 
From the criminal code;



The problem I'm having is that an air gun under 500 fps is not a firearm... How can a suppressor for an airgun under 500fps be prohibited?
This is correct, but those who cannot be criticised will duct tape it onto a 22LR and send you to the big house because it is a slippery slope and they hate you.
 
.....And simple possession of it is illegal. This means that if your air gun silencer CAN fit on a 1000fps gammo air gun, or a coey 22LR or a Rugger SR22 than its illegal.

Somewhere I also remember reading that the silencer is defined as muffleing or quieting a firearms report even by a single Db....so if your "fake can"or compensator as tested by a CFO with a Db meter shows that your gun is quieter by one Db with the "fake can" (even if its still 110db)than its illegal and you go to jail, no guns ever again, they are melted and your collection is published on tv as an illegal and deadly arsenal seizure of baby killers.
 
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hmm weird because a solvent trap adapter can be shipped here no problem. also give me a few min and I could have one whipped up with a trip to a hardware store

Shhh!!!!!! Or the next time I want to buy a rubber washers (for bolting aluminum together with steel bolts) I won't be able to.
And anyone with highschool chemistry and an average IQ CAN build some nasty stuff from household items. We choose not to do such nefarious things and all is well. But every once in a while some douche canoe does do it and ruins it for everyone who simply enjoys the cleaning action of amonia or hydrochloric acid, or the fertilizing capacity of 100% amonium nitrate. I don't want to have to drink my pop from a plastic bag, so shhh.
 
From the criminal code;



The problem I'm having is that an air gun under 500 fps is not a firearm... How can a suppressor for an airgun under 500fps be prohibited?

But an airgun IS a firearm. Those with MV under 500fps are 'unregulated' but they are still, by definition within the criminal code of Canada, firearms. If you break an other law while using a sub-500 fps air gun, you are as illegal as if you had used a centre fire firearm.
 
Came across this on the RCMPs website. I am trying to find the actual provisions within the FA and CCC, but nothing yet.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm

Air Guns

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There are two general types of air guns (also known as BB guns, pellet guns, spring guns or air soft guns):

air (pneumatic system), and
spring (spring-air)
A third type, gas (CO2/nitrogen), even though they are not, strictly speaking, “air guns,” are subject to the same rules set out below. For purposes of the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code, air guns can be further divided into four categories:

1. Air guns that are firearms for purposes of both the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code

These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The “muzzle velocity” is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The “muzzle energy” is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.

These high-powered air guns are subject to the same licence and registration requirements as a conventional firearm. Owners and users are also required to store, transport, display and handle them safely in accordance with the regulations supporting the Firearms Act.

The manufacturer’s specifications are used to determine what muzzle velocity and muzzle energy an air gun was designed to have. This information may be available in the user’s manual or on the manufacturer’s website. If the information is not available, individuals can call the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) at 1-800-731-4000 and ask to speak to a firearm technician to find out if the air gun is considered to be a firearm for purposes of the Firearms Act.

High-powered air rifles are generally classified as non-restricted firearms. However, the classification depends on the exact design of the air gun. Air rifles manufactured to resemble an assault rifle could be non-restricted, restricted or prohibited depending on the exact model imitated. High-powered air rifles would also be prohibited firearms if fully automatic or if they have a sawed-off barrel. They could also be restricted firearms if they have a folding stock that reduces the overall length to less than 660mm.

2. Air guns that meet the Criminal Code definition of a firearm, but are deemed not to be firearms for certain purposes of the Firearms Act and Criminal Code

These are air guns with a maximum muzzle velocity of 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second and/or a maximum muzzle energy of 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds. Such air guns are exempt from licensing, registration, and other requirements under the Firearms Act, and from penalties set out in the Criminal Code for possessing a firearm without a valid licence or registration certificate.

However, they are considered to be firearms under the Criminal Code if they are used to commit a crime. Anyone who uses such an air gun to commit a crime faces the same penalties as someone who uses a regular firearm.

The simple possession, acquisition and use of these air guns for lawful purposes are regulated more by provincial and municipal laws and by-laws than by federal law. For example, some provinces may have set a minimum age for acquiring such an air gun. For more information, please contact your local or provincial authorities.

These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.

3. Air guns that are replica firearms

These are air guns not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.

In particular, some air guns commonly known as air soft guns may fall into this category. These are devices that have a low muzzle velocity and muzzle energy, and that usually discharge projectiles made out of a substance such as plastic or wax rather than metal. Airsoft guns with a muzzle velocity below 111.6 m/s (366 fps), and resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, other than an antique firearm, are replica firearms and therefore are prohibited devices.

Although replica firearms are prohibited, individuals may keep those they owned on December 1, 1998. It is not necessary to have a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, an individual cannot import or acquire a replica firearm. If a replica firearm is taken out of Canada, it will not be allowed back in.

The Criminal Code sets out penalties for using a replica firearm or any other imitation firearm to commit a crime.

Some devices may resemble a real firearm in terms of their shape, but are made of clear or brightly coloured plastic, or have significant dimensional differences. Many of these devices need to be assessed on a case-by case basis. As a general rule, however, devices significantly smaller or larger than the real version are not classified as replica firearms.

4. Air guns that are neither firearms nor replicas

These are air guns that are not powerful enough to be classified as firearms and that do not resemble a real firearm closely enough to be considered a replica. An example would be a harmless air gun made out of clear plastic or a device that is obviously a child’s toy.

They generally fall within the definition of an “imitation firearm” and may be subject to some penalties under the Criminal Code if used to commit a crime.
 
Found part of it in the CCC

Suppressors are prohibited under s 84(1) of the CCC, which isn't included in the deeming provision below. So, my reading is that a suppressor attached to a air gun with a muzzle velocity of less than 500 fps is still a prohibited device...since that airgun is still a firearm for those purposes of the act.

Certain weapons deemed not to be firearms

(3) For the purposes of sections 91 to 95, 99 to 101, 103 to 107 and 117.03 of this Act and the provisions of the Firearms Act, the following weapons are deemed not to be firearms:
(a) any antique firearm;
(b) any device that is
(i) designed exclusively for signalling, for notifying of distress, for firing blank cartridges or for firing stud cartridges, explosive-driven rivets or other industrial projectiles, and
(ii) intended by the person in possession of it to be used exclusively for the purpose for which it is designed;
(c) any shooting device that is
(i) designed exclusively for the slaughtering of domestic animals, the tranquillizing of animals or the discharging of projectiles with lines attached to them, and
(ii) intended by the person in possession of it to be used exclusively for the purpose for which it is designed; and
(d) any other barrelled weapon, where it is proved that the weapon is not designed or adapted to discharge
(i) a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.7 Joules, or
(ii) a shot, bullet or other projectile that is designed or adapted to attain a velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or an energy exceeding 5.7 Joules.
 
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