Legality: Semi-auto Maximum Capacity

[ambishooter]

I am getting confused. Handguns has maximum 10-round capacity. Rimfire rifles, unlimited capacity. But centerfire rifles and shotguns were supposed to have 5-rounds. But I ‘ve been seeing some write-ups where pump-action shotguns can go beyond 5, with a barrel stamp for 3.5” max length for 12 ga allowing 5 to 7 rds in the tube plus a chamber load on a 2 3/4 shell. What about the 3-gun discipline? Mossberg JM 9xx series, Stoeger M3K, Remington Versamax, all capable of extending mags beyond 7 rounds. What is the real deal with shotgun capacity?

 

[Far North]

pump-action shotguns can go beyond 5

1400 post?

pump action is not semi-auto.

 

[Komodo]

From the RCMP web site
As a general rule, the maximum magazine capacity is:

5 cartridges for most magazines designed for a semi-automatic, centre-fire long gun
10 cartridges for most handgun magazines

With some exceptions, there is no limit to the magazine capacity for:

semi-automatic, rim-fire long guns
other long guns that are not semi-automatics

You missed the part about semi automatic.

 

[ambishooter]

So pump can go beyond 5, regardless of caliber, shell size and mag tube length?

 

[vp6111]

Max 5-rd capacity in semi-auto as officially chambered on the shotgun barrel.

"Capable of extending beyond "?! isn't the same as people actually doing something clearly illegal.

 

[vp6111]

So pump can go beyond 5, regardless of caliber, shell size and mag tube length?

It's as if you had been living on a different planet.

 

[cam1936]

So pump can go beyond 5, regardless of caliber, shell size and mag tube length?

Yes. If you want you could put an extension on that goes beyond the barrel of your pump gun and have 10+ rounds in it.

It is only semi autos that have the mag limit.

 

[Butcherbill]

The only time a pump action shotgun has to be limited in mag tube capacity is if you’re hunting with shot, so birdshot and buckshot. At least that’s the rule in B.C., if you’re hunting with slugs you can load to the max. Otherwise it has to be plugged to hold 2 in the mag and one in the chamber, if you’re not hunting you can stuff as many in the mag as possible.

 

[marshall]

You want more confusion? I have a semi auto 9mm pistol that I can legally shoot 13 rounds in.

 

[ambishooter]

Must be a mag for a .40 that is loaded with a 9 mm round. As long as the mag is stamped with the proper caliber, you cannot go beyond the limit. But there is no regulation loading a smaller round, if it fits. This is what happened with Ruger BX 25 rimfire, now limited to 10 as it fits a Ruger Charger.

All Clear now. Thank you for the inputs.

You want more confusion? I have a semi auto 9mm pistol that I can legally shoot 13 rounds in.

 

[FLHTCUI]

The only time a pump action shotgun has to be limited in mag tube capacity is if you’re hunting with shot, so birdshot and buckshot. At least that’s the rule in B.C., if you’re hunting with slugs you can load to the max. Otherwise it has to be plugged to hold 2 in the mag and one in the chamber, if you’re not hunting you can stuff as many in the mag as possible.

Migratory Game Birds is a Federal Reg.
3 Shots max.
2 in the magazine and one in the chamber.
What is it the Op wishes to do with his shotgun?
Might be a bit more helpful to answer the question if we knew.
Rob

 

[ambishooter]

I have a semi-auto and a pair of pumps. I was thinking of adding a mag extension on the semi- auto. But with a clearer picture regarding the magazine limits, I will keep it in it's current capacity.

Migratory Game Birds is a Federal Reg.
3 Shots max.
2 in the magazine and one in the chamber.
What is it the Op wishes to do with his shotgun?
Might be a bit more helpful to answer the question if we knew.
Rob

 

[ColinD]

Max 5-rd capacity in semi-auto as officially chambered on the shotgun barrel.

"Capable of extending beyond "?! isn't the same as people actually doing something clearly illegal.

Are you sure? Doesn’t it have to do with the size of the receiver. There are shotguns with 3.5” receivers and their barrels say 3 but can load a 3.5

 

[brybenn]

The only time a pump action shotgun has to be limited in mag tube capacity is if you’re hunting with shot, so birdshot and buckshot. At least that’s the rule in B.C., if you’re hunting with slugs you can load to the max. Otherwise it has to be plugged to hold 2 in the mag and one in the chamber, if you’re not hunting you can stuff as many in the mag as possible.

Ontario all shotguns for hunting are plugged at 2 in the mag 1 in the pipe

 

[marshall]

Right, LOL. The BX was buggered because it would go in the charger pistol. both 22 RF.
Beretta CX 45 mag , same situation, pistol mag will fit the carbine , so a No No, unless pined to 5
Good old Canadian B.S.

 

[Butcherbill]

Migratory Game Birds is a Federal Reg.
3 Shots max.
2 in the magazine and one in the chamber.
What is it the Op wishes to do with his shotgun?
Might be a bit more helpful to answer the question if we knew.
Rob

In bc if you hunt with a shotgun and you use any “shot” you’re 2+1, migratory bird, upland bird and upland game. So it makes no difference, you have to plug it. The synopsis is very clear on this, it’s also clear that if you’re hunting with slugs (single projectile) you may hunt unplugged. Pg17 under “Legal hunting methods”, point #5 to be exact.

 

[rommelrommel]

Beretta CX 45 mag , same situation, pistol mag will fit the carbine , so a No No, unless pined to 5
Good old Canadian B.S.

?

That only happened with the mags that Beretta unfortunately marked as being CX4 45 magazines. The cougar 45 mags are legal in their full glorious 8 round capacity.

 

[Brutus]

Right, LOL. The BX was buggered because it would go in the charger pistol. both 22 RF.
Beretta CX 45 mag , same situation, pistol mag will fit the carbine , so a No No, unless pined to 5
Good old Canadian B.S.

I am fairly certain they ran after the bx and challenger pistol mag issue, only to scr#w over a higher number of licensed individuals.
Paulson's parting gift to Canadian citizens.

 

[FLHTCUI]

In bc if you hunt with a shotgun and you use any “shot” you’re 2+1, migratory bird, upland bird and upland game. So it makes no difference, you have to plug it. The synopsis is very clear on this, it’s also clear that if you’re hunting with slugs (single projectile) you may hunt unplugged. Pg17 under “Legal hunting methods”, point #5 to be exact.

BB, I do apologize for my mistake.
Wasnt my intention to call you and your post into question.
btw, notice how the print in the regs is getting smaller and smaller in the hard copy format ?
Rob

 

[Mrblak77]

The funny thing is the law states that a magazine "designed for" such and such. Well the ruger charger came out in 2007. You could have a 25 round. 22lr ruger magazine that was made before 2007 that obviously wasnt designed for a gun that didn't exist yet but is still prohibited.....