Length of factory 870 Express wood stock?

[manbearpig]

could anyone that owns one of these - the typical, standard length 870 express wood stock with the pressed checkering - measure one for me please?

measuring the side of the stock, im getting ~11.5" from the center of the butt to the center of the part that attaches to the receiver.

bought the stock used, and this is going on a short barreled shotgun and im basically just covering my ass - if the previous owner shortened LOP by even a half-inch, and i install it on a short barreled shotgun and OAL is <660mm, havent i just created a prohib device?

 

[CanAm]

There is no minimum length unless you cut the barrel or the stock folds.

 

[manbearpig]

i understand this, when using factory components -- such as the stock, PG, etc you supply with the grizzlies.

but from what i understand, cutting the stock on a firearm <660mm is prohibited.
which means if i buy a used 870 wood stock, and i dont know that the previous owner has cut an inch off the stock to shorten LOP for their kid, and i install it on a Grizzly, i have just created a prohib firearm.

All rifles and shotguns that have been ALTERED so that their barrel length is less than 457mm (45.7cm, about 18 inches), or so that their overall length is less than 660mm (66cm, about 26 inches)

cutting the stock would be considered altering.
i am just covering my ass.

 

[CanAm]

I don't believe there is any mention of shortening the stock in the legislation, only the barrel.

 

[manbearpig]

well, im safe with a Grizzly since even with the LOP of a full stock shortened several inches a 12.5 Grizzly is still >660mm so its a moot point for that.

but it seems that shortening the LOP of a stock on an even shorter shotgun like an 8.5 Dlask could create a prohib firearm if you dont pay attention to your OALs...

The Criminal Code defines the following firearms as prohibited:

* rifles and shotguns that have been altered so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm (about 18 inches) or their overall length is less than 660 mm (about 26 inches)

 

[CanAm]

I double checked, you are correct:

A Prohibited firearm is:

• a handgun with a barrel length of 105 mm (4.1 inches) or less;
• a handgun designed or adapted to discharge 25 or 32 calibre ammunition;
• a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make it less than 660 mm (26 inches) in overall length;
• a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make the barrel length less than 457 mm (18 inches) where the overall firearm length is 660 mm (26 inches) or more;
• an automatic firearm and a converted automatic firearm;
• any firearm prescribed as prohibited.

If the stock has been cut, it's a no go.