Let's speculate on Winchester values...

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Scenario 1:
Olin Corp. does not renew the license for the Belgians to use the Winchester name on guns and the Belgians never resume production of M94's and M70's in North America nor overseas.

Scenario 2:
The Belgians continue to be licensed to use the Winchester name and they start producing M94's and M70's in Japan.

Question: How will the above scenarios affect the values of M94's and M70's (in particular pre-94's)? Anyone want to speculate?

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best case scenario, everyone will sell their win's for profit and buy tikkas or rem's:D

worst case, everyone will keep their win's and miss out on tikkas and rem's:D
 
Billy The Kid said:
I wouldn't swap my Winchesters for the newer Remingtons unless I was getting 6:1 on them!!!
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old win for new rem? HMMM

how bout old win for old rem??;)
 
Trade a win for a rem? Get your face away from that gas soaked touque quick! Tikka, mmm Ok, I like the smooth.But for a pure hunting rifle hard to beat a m70. I hope the Belgians do continue with them and do as nice a job with them as the FN SPR:D
 
It'll be supply & demand. That will always, as now, dictate value. 'Course it will also be dictated by "quality" perceived or otherwise. If they stop producing Model 94's & Model 70's altogether then they might attain some collector value at all levels. If they start to produce them in Japan then there will be varied values just like now with the Pre-'64 issue. As now, depending on condition of course, they will be worth a premium. The post '64's will have or maintain a certain value & then the "newbies" the 'Japchesters' will be worth the least. Just my .02.......;)
 
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Win vs Rem

I'll wade in on the Win vs. Rem sidebar here, too... I love a nice Pre '64 Winnie like the rest of 'em but I also love my Rem 700's. And certainly wouldn't feel disadvantaged by owning one of Rem's newer offerings like the CDL for example... Hell, I'm even contemplating getting another SPS... ;) :D
 
Well I guess I should'nt slag the 700's or the post 64 push feeds either (I own both)but I do feel as a hunting rig, the crf is better. As for the Japanese,I think they can make a fine firearm if the management wants them to.
 
Well......................oh I better take out some insurance. I think that the new Remingtons, the post 64 Winchesters and the Brownings are.......just rifles. There is nothing outstanding about them. I'd take a new Model 70 classic over all of them.

Savage.................ugh!!!!!

If I had the money right now.........some Mod. 70 classics...........higher grades. The rest..............who cares!
 
NAA said:
It'll be supply & demand. That will always, as now, dictate value. 'Course it will also be dictated by "quality" perceived or otherwise. If they stop producing Model 94's & Model 70's altogether then they might attain some collector value at all levels. If they start to produce them in Japan then there will be varied values just like now with the Pre-'64 issue. As now, depending on condition of course, they will be worth a premium. The post '64's will have or maintain a certain value & then the "newbies" the 'Japchesters' will be worth the least. Just my .02.......;)
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The Browning levers and such certainly haven't dropped in price since moving to japan. I don't think Winchesters would change, enough that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference, (other than the stamp)
 
I think it's interesting that since Winchester is folding the North American plant and stopping production of the Model 70 and Model 94, Remington suddenly pulls a CRF Mauser out of their asses and offers it at Win70 pricing levels. the Square Bridge Mauser is as close to a model 70 as they can get without infringing upon US Repeating Arms' patent rights. After all, the Win 70 is essentially a Mauser variant. Add an aftermarket swing safety to a Mauser 98 and what have you essentially got?

Should bode well for Remington - they can now satisfy both sides of the CRF/push feed debate and don;t have to compete with Winchester in the process.

I'll be sad to see the winnys go... should maybe go buy a model 94 and a left handed 70 before they're all gone...
 
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Well regardless if the discontiuing of the 94 is real, I don't see any price increases for 30.30's that for sure. There are more of these around than grass.

I did however purchase three winny's just in case it does get crazy. I was planning to purchase them in the future, but if there is no future... you get my drift.:rolleyes:

Win 1892 Saddle ring carbine in 25.20
Win 94 Legacy in .357 magnum
Win 94 Legacy in .44 magnum

If the model 94 (and 70) is going to be dropped, hang on to your "odd calibre" (other than 30.30 etc) rifles. They will be just like the Win 88 in .358 one day.
Common is cheap, rare is expensive.

Arch:)
 
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