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Sharps '74

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A young Cowboy Action shooter I am mentoring bought a Norc 'Target' model 1911 with all the bells, gong & whistles. For the money, a pretty good gun.

However, it threw it's brass about 15' and occasionally badly dented a case or two. He is shooting a load that makes IPSC Major with 230 RN as he wants to take a Black Badge course (now cancelled due to Covid19).

I checked my own 1911s and got on the net and there is no absolute when it comes to ejector length except that Commander ejectors are quite short due to the shorter barrel.

I cut 3/16" (!!!) off the Norc ejector and it is now the length of the ejector in my Ruger SR1911. Ejection is positive and cases now land 6-8' away to the right and rear.

I'm thinking that the long ejector was making premature contact with the casing which caused the odd case deformation as well as the excessive ejection.

Comments?
 
Sure would like to see an answer for this. I have a Para SSP and I'm sure it holds a record for brass tossing ....... over 30 feet.
 
I have been using some pretty "spicy" loads .... 4.4 gr titegroup under a 200 gr semiwadcutter. Factory 230 gr as bad or worse. I've tried stiffer springs, now I think I'll try backing off on the load. Can't do much these days, outdoor range and an hour and a half drive.
 
Sharps '74 said:
A young Cowboy Action shooter I am mentoring bought a Norc 'Target' model 1911 with all the bells, gong & whistles. For the money, a pretty good gun.

However, it threw it's brass about 15' and occasionally badly dented a case or two. He is shooting a load that makes IPSC Major with 230 RN as he wants to take a Black Badge course (now cancelled due to Covid19).

I checked my own 1911s and got on the net and there is no absolute when it comes to ejector length except that Commander ejectors are quite short due to the shorter barrel.

I cut 3/16" (!!!) off the Norc ejector and it is now the length of the ejector in my Ruger SR1911. Ejection is positive and cases now land 6-8' away to the right and rear.

I'm thinking that the long ejector was making premature contact with the casing which caused the odd case deformation as well as the excessive ejection.

Comments?
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Ejector length has nothing to do with barrel length. My 5" Springfield Loaded, had a very short ejector on it, while my 5" MC operator has a slightly longer. Many put longer ones so it starts kicking out the case sooner. While my 5" 9mm 1911, has a even more longer ejector, than my MC operator.

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Odinson said:
Sure would like to see an answer for this. I have a Para SSP and I'm sure it holds a record for brass tossing ....... over 30 feet.
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My Springfield MC operator slings brass about 20ft. I heard the fix for this are 18.5/19 LB recoil springs. I have one here, I yet to install.
 
My Springfield MC operator slings brass about 20ft. I heard the fix for this are 18.5/19 LB recoil springs. I have one here, I yet to install.[/QUOTE]

In my old age I probably couldn't rack an 18 lb spring ......
 
Odinson said:
In my old age I probably couldn't rack an 18 lb spring ......
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Had someone that uses 10# spring in their CZ Shadow/SP01, try racking mine with the I believe 18# ( flat spring ) and couldn't. I don't like playing with spring rates really. So I'm dealing with the brass launcher.
 
OkayShooter said:
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My Springfield MC operator slings brass about 20ft. I heard the fix for this are 18.5/19 LB recoil springs. I have one here, I yet to install.
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The ejectors in my Remington Commanders are the same as per the bottom pic but squared off, not angled.

The ejector I cut down for the Norc now looks like the top pic. Originally 3/16" longer.

Like I said - there doesn't seem to be any set standard in the industry among makers. It it works, it's good.
 
if a sa pistol is chewing brass you need to check and tune the extractor

You hear it all the time it only happens of the last round

if you want a simple test.. at range... load 1 in a mag .. chamber the round... drop mag ... fire round with no mag..
if fired brass goes down the mag well = bad extractor / tuning
not a 100% test btw

Too light of a recoil spring ... beat the gun up
 
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Yeah, it occurred to me that it could be the extractor. I'll check with the owner and see if the problem persists.

If it does, I have a spare ejector for him.
 
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