Letter to Remington about crappy SPS stock

dan belisle said:
Bed it and free float the barrel. Then try it again. - dan
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I'm not sure that it's worth the effort. Watch the EE and get a clean HS Precision take off. I picked up a takeoff laminate stock here and it's much better than the plastic model. Paid $225 shipped. If you wait it out you can usually find the HS model for a little more and then it has the aluminum bedding block.
 
wheels said:
better get some buckley's for that cough because the tupperware stocks on the savage as just as bad, the accustocks are plastic POS as well.
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Not even close. The Accustock has an aluminum bedding block just like the B&C stocks that everyone puts on the SPS. You do not need to replace the Savage stock out of the box, you do with the Remington SPS to be assured of any sort of precision.
 
my sps .223 was moa out of the box... what's the big deal for a 650$ rifle? i even got a 50$ rebate check....(That i later put towards an mdt lss....)

The stock of Most/many large manufacture's are Crap out of the box on their econo rifle selection... Savage included. (What's with savage owners leaving the stickers on their stocks too? it's like the special kid that leaves the sticker on his/her hat...:nest:)

If it's not the bedding, its the composite... or the fit and finish, or countless other things. It's an ECONO rifle...
So let's complain about the feel on a savage rifle now... Cheap plastic anyone? :stirthepot2:
 
Sand out the barrel channel so it's free floated?? Save the money you'd spend on a new stock for other things. The stocks might not be the best but you can make them work.
On a side note. If some of you are knowingly going to fork over another $200-$300 for a stock replacement why wouldn't you spend that money up front on a better gun to start with?
 
I bought this: Stock I will keep the old one as it's not really worth anything and see what I can do to improve it's performance. I'm strictly a target shooting these days so having a sporter stock is not all that important to me.
 
yes the sps stock is garbage and so is the metal finish.. but its a cheap rifle. the 783 has a much better hard plastic free floated and pillared stock although it is ugly. it also has a much better metal finish. they could do better on the sps but its not made in the same factory as the 783.
 
flashman said:
Not even close. The Accustock has an aluminum bedding block just like the B&C stocks that everyone puts on the SPS. You do not need to replace the Savage stock out of the box, you do with the Remington SPS to be assured of any sort of precision.
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Glad you like yours, imo they are plastic garbage and not anywhere close to a B&C. Better than the normal savage tupperware stock? Sure.
 
crout said:
On a side note. If some of you are knowingly going to fork over another $200-$300 for a stock replacement why wouldn't you spend that money up front on a better gun to start with?
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Because you may not like the standard offerings from the manufacturers and wish to put together a package to suit your own tastes and needs.
 
wheels said:
Glad you like yours, imo they are plastic garbage and not anywhere close to a B&C. Better than the normal savage tupperware stock? Sure.
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How, exactly, aren't they functionally the equivalent of a B&C? Both employ a full length alu bedding block, which is the part that matters to accuracy and precision. The Accustock certainly doesn't feel as nice as the B&Cs, no question, but it will perform just as well. Indeed, with an Accustock Savage, good glass and good loads, you'd be competitive in any precision match you cared to shoot. To compare an Accustock's performance to the thing on the SPS is just... inaccurate.

Even swapping out my OEM Tikka "plastic junk" stock for a chassis produced no improvement whatsoever in accuracy — that wasn't the aim. Is it nicer? Absolutely! That, and it allows you to mag feed hand loads over AR mag length. But any better in terms of accuracy? No.
 
hend238 said:
Newly manufactured rifles these days are junk. It's very disappointing. Remington should rename their SPS to POS.
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For $1000 today you could put together a rig that can shoot accurately out to 1000 yards. The very best sniper rifle the British empire could field from WW2 to the Gulf War was held to an accuracy standard that people wouldn't accept in the cheapest economy hunting rifle today, and would be lucky to hit an elephant at 1000 yards.

I dunno. I think economy rifles today offer an unbelievable level of performance; the best there's ever been, in fact.
 
Remington only made the cheaper models because there is a market for cheap. That's why all cheap guns sell. When you buy the cheapest don't expect premium performance.
That being said I have seen lots of SPS's that shoot just fine as is...
I don't recommend doing any alterations with the cheap plastic stocks from any company... if you aren't happy with the flexible plastic stocks buy real ones.
 
You get what you pay for. The SPS and AAC-SD series of rifles from Remington are their "poor man's" tacticool solution for those of us who aren't willing to spend the thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars on a high quality precision rifle. And that's pretty much it. Don't get me wrong, I agree that QC should always be there, but when I got my AAC-SD I knew that I was getting something that was going to need work. I also wasn't under the illusion that I could take the rifle straight out of the box and instantly shoot like Rob Furlong or Chris Kyle. Which seems to be the case for a lot of people buying these rifles.

The bottom line is, any precision rig is going to cost you money. It's an expensive hobby. And if you're going to take it seriously you have to be willing to spend the big bucks. The first step is always going to be to change the stock.
 
An M700 SPS Varmint, like all Rem SPS', is an entry level hunting rifle. Isn't in any way, shape or form a target rifle. $761.00US MSRP. You get what you pay for.
You certainly do not get a match grade barrel that may or may not benefit from free floating, for less than $800Cdn.
 
Got my B&C stock and have the gun mounted into it. Working up some more hand loads tonight and hitting the range tomorrow morning. Should be interesting to see how the new rig performs. The old crappy plastic stock shot sub MOA 3 shot groups but there was always 2 flyers in the 5 shot string. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
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