Leupold Mark 4
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Hammerhead
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- Calgary, AB
TMR uses the unit of measure as a mildot. The main difference is that the TMR uses hash marks instead if actual dots. Also, the TMR has smaller hash marks to show the half mil mark. And finally, the TMR has a void right in the middle of the crosshair so that the target isn't obstructed.
Having used both, I much prefer the TMR. It seems more precise and the reticle doesn't obscure much of the picture.
That's just my 2 cents
Having used both, I much prefer the TMR. It seems more precise and the reticle doesn't obscure much of the picture.
That's just my 2 cents
cdnredneck_t3
Regular
I have both also. The TMR is the way to go.
I wish the TMR was just spaced out at 2 MOA even per hashmark, and the whole mildot thing forgotten. I dope wind in minutes, drop in minutes, the scope adjusts in minutes and like most people I range with a LRF. Why can't
Leupold make a reticle that fits that theme?
Leupold make a reticle that fits that theme?
BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
I've got an NXS with a mildot (superior to the Leupold mildot as it is hollow with a dot inside each dot) and a Mark 4 with a TMR and I have to say that I prefer the TMR as well. But I agree with Mike.
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- calgary alberta
I too have both but will be dumping them and going to yet more Nightforce scopes on my rifles.
The MK4s are decent optics but I hate the fact that they have mil reticles yet 1/4 moa turrets. Far toooo much math for me, the NF match their reticles and turrets which makes it much easier to work with.
Too much math ? Then make your mil reticle read in MOA with any 2nd focal plane scope....
With either mil dot or TMR reticle, you can adjust the power (therefore reticle subtension) to have the Mil reticle read in MOA. For example, my TMR reticle is calibrated to accurately read in Mils at 14x (where 1 mil = 3.438 MOA). By adjusting the power down (i.e., increasing subtension, calibrate at 95 yards) to about 13x, 1 MIL = 4 MOA. With a TMR Reticle set at 13x, this gives me reticles hash marks every 2 MOA. This synchronizes the MOA turrets to a MOA reticle. Simple.
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- calgary alberta
Why not just make the scope with turrets that are in the same unit of measure as the reticle?
THAT is much simpler.
BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
Yeah, I think I'd be more inclined to go with the reticle/adjustment being in the same unit of measure. Fiddling with power to get to the point where the reticle subtends similar units to the adjustment sounds like a non-starter to me.
I do like the Nightforce NP-R1 reticle and that's what I upgraded to on my ATRS 300WM from a Mark 4 TMR.
I do like the Nightforce NP-R1 reticle and that's what I upgraded to on my ATRS 300WM from a Mark 4 TMR.
You can recalibrate the reticle to MOA by multiplying the power by .86. That gets the 8.5-25 working in MOA at 21.5 power and the 6.5-20 at 17.2 power.
Although one could argue that being able to have both systems in one scope is an advantage, it still doesn't change that I almost always use high powered scopes at top power and never use the mil dot function to range at all.
Although one could argue that being able to have both systems in one scope is an advantage, it still doesn't change that I almost always use high powered scopes at top power and never use the mil dot function to range at all.
