Little badger not firing every time?

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Ive got a Chiappa Little Badger that I love, but I am finding that while it fired every time initially, it declined to only firing every 2nd hammer strike and is getting worse now taking 3-4 times before it fires.

Ive taken it apart twice cleaned everything thoroughly and even polished the passage that the firing pin travels through.

How can I figure out what the issue is? Not sure if the firing pin is hitting correctly on the round or if its too weak or what....any suggested would be very much appreciated!

Thank-you,
Chris

Edit: solution was closing the break action with a quick slightly authorittive snap as opposed to closing gently.
 
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I had the same problem with a lil badger. The buisiness end of the firing pin was too short. It was making dents in the rims, but they were pretty shallow when compared to other rimfires.
Mine only missfired a few times, but the accuracy was poor. Pretty sure a longer firing pin would have fixed both issues, but I got rid of it so can't say for sure.

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I sort of suspected that as the firing pin doesn't protrude very far at all....accuracy is good on mine, so I would like to fix it. Ill check the spent rounds compared to ones from other rimfires I have. I should be able to add a little material to the end of the firing pin (not the business end) so it is pushed out further.

Thank-you!
 
Ok, so the times that it doesnt fire, there are no visable or barely visable strike marks on shells. All the ones that do shoot, have very visable marks. How does it strike harder sometimes and not other times?
 
I don't suppose you have a scope mounted that interfered with the hammer travelling forward. Also next time you shoot it, give the trigger a good tug. I had a nef and it wouldnt fire if you gently squeezed the trigger, you really had to give it a yank. Wasnt conducive to good accuracy.
 
Using cci quiet ammo.

And yes, I do gently squeeze the trigger for better accuracy as you noted. Will try the other way just to see

I do have a scope but no interference happening. Good thought though!

...and my brother the welder says its not so simple to lengthen the pin, so cancel that.
 
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Ok, pretty sure I got a solution. By filing away a small amount of the housing for the firing pin, it will make the hammer travel further and push the pin further out. Once I confirm this works, Ill post up some pics to help show.
 
If your getting good, deep indentations as it is sometimes, will they be too deep after your mod? Would it better to alter the tip of the pin to allow more protrusion then alter the irreplaceable receiver?
 
383SB said:
If your getting good, deep indentations as it is sometimes, will they be too deep after your mod? Would it better to alter the tip of the pin to allow more protrusion then alter the irreplaceable receiver?
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Just to clarify, you suggest sharpening the tip of the firing pin?

I hear what your saying, but I think any thinner and the tip might break?

Ill heed your warning and be careful not to take too much off between testing as to not ruin the receiver.
 
It started doing this before it was ever taken apart, but does seem to be worse recently and I have taken apart alot recently.
This gun is so simple that I think everything is in order, but I will watch the springs carefully upon next reassembly. Thanks!
 
speed23 said:
Just to clarify, you suggest sharpening the tip of the firing pin?

I hear what your saying, but I think any thinner and the tip might break?

Ill heed your warning and be careful not to take too much off between testing as to not ruin the receiver.
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Sorry, this is what i meant. Ps paintshop is a ##### with a laptop mouse

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If it works fine sometimes, I would not start grinding yet, something is stopping the hammer or fire pin, though I have never worked on these. check the pin retainer, clean the chamber
have a picture of the rest of it? look for burrs etc.
Is there a spring in there?, with the cross pin out, can you push it ahead further ( by hand)?,
when it don't fire is the hammer all the way ahead, not hung up?, Just thinking out load,
 
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383SB said:
Sorry, this is what i meant. Ps paintshop is a ##### with a laptop mouse

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That tip of this firing pin, if in fact is yours, that tip looks like a frick'in marble.
One is successful in chopp'in wood (knees as well) with a sharp axe, nawt a bawlpeen'ahmmer.

Git rid of the round and make it more sharp.

Still, no photos of the t'wack'd ammo.
 
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That tip of this firing pin, if in fact is yours, that tip looks like a frick'in marble.
One is successful in chopp'in wood (knees as well) with a sharp axe, nawt a bawlpeen'ahmmer.

Git rid of the round and make it more sharp.

Still, no photos of the t'wack'd ammo.
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Negative, its a centerfire firing pin from sxs, just a pic i stole to illustrate moving the shoulder back a tad bit.
 
Welder? I've seen a fair TIG welder add material to lots smaller than a firing pin tip. And a truly gifted one build up a part similar, out of weld bead, from scratch. That ain't me, but then, I own a couple metal lathes, so I don't think in terms of goobering metal on, as my default solution! :)

Golden rule. Alter a part you can replace, or make a new modified version to try out the idea, even if it's rough as crap and soft as butter, it'll work well enough to prove the idea is correct.

If the strikes are none too heavy even on the ones that work, and near non-existent on the ones that don't, I would likely start by looking pretty hard at the headspace. If it was tight, then look at the pin protrusion, as well as possibly shaping the tip to concentrate the impact in to a smaller area, if it's one of those flat round ended pins, esp. It does sound like you got one with enough tolerances stacked up to cause you a bit of grief. G'luck!
 
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