Llama Model II .380 - a pint-size 1911

[Clobbersauras]

I had the opportunity to put a box of ammo through this neat little pistol the other day. It's my fathers and he's had it for at least 15 years. I hogged most of his ammo.




I have to say that I was impressed with this little guy. It functioned 100%. The sights were horrid. The front was a tiny bump that you were supposed to align with a very shallow notch in the rear sight. At 7 yards POI was a couple inches high. The trigger is mushy with a very hard to define reset. The trigger guard is quite small and when shooting at speed it lightly bit my trigger finger. It shot well with doubles and recoil was negligent. Mags hold 7 rounds.

I think this was 21 rounds, flyers were my fault entirely. Distance was 7 yards.


The finish was mostly smooth and dehorned with the the rear sight and magazine providing the only sharp edges. It was quite comfortable to shoot, though after a box of ammo the mag base was a little annoying and dug into the little finger of my shooting hand.

It comes apart very much like a full size 1911:


But it's much smaller:


It was a treat to shoot. It fed everything reliably, including a mixed bag of JHP's. It was acceptably accurate and would make an excellent BUG with a slightly larger trigger guard, new sights, and a dehorning of the mag. I did a little research and production on these started in 1933 and lasted thru 1954, I'm not sure what year this one was made, I'm just glad I got to shoot it. I would love to see a modern manufacturer make an updated version.

 

[NAA]

Very nice! That one looks like it's old enough to qualify to be a 12(7)?

I kinda like the one that's in .22lr that looks like a minature 1911, too.

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NAA.

 

[Ganderite]

I have one of those and a Star, that looks similar. Most 380s are blowback actions. The Llama and Star lock up, so I find I can load ammo a bit hotter, if I want to.

My Llama will feed Remington Hp ammo, but not Federal. Have not tested the star with commercial HP ammo.

Llama also made an "Airlite" version with an alloy frame.

 

[Clobbersauras]

Very nice! That one looks like it's old enough to qualify to be a 12(7)?

I kinda like the one that's in .22lr that looks like a minature 1911, too.

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NAA.

I'm not sure when it was manufactured. I wish I could determine the age.

 

[Clobbersauras]

I have one of those and a Star, that looks similar. Most 380s are blowback actions. The Llama and Star lock up, so I find I can load ammo a bit hotter, if I want to.

My Llama will feed Remington Hp ammo, but not Federal. Have not tested the star with commercial HP ammo.

Llama also made an "Airlite" version with an alloy frame.

Does your Llama shoot high as well?

 

[drslav]

Neat gun. How long is the barrel on it? I do think 380 is a bit too powerful for blowback guns. This must shoot so nice as it locks up. Thanks for sharing. I would love to have one like this.

 

[#1bcshooter]

I have one of those Llama's & a baby Luger in .380 to go with it

 

[polkey]

By the op's pics his gun is from 1942, most Spanish guns from that era have a letter date code.
http://9mmlargo.com/year_codes.htm

 

[Clobbersauras]

By the op's pics his gun is from 1942, most Spanish guns from that era have a letter date code.
http://9mmlargo.com/year_codes.htm

Thanks for the link!

 

[Garand]

I had a .380 Llama about 35 years ago, it was a fun little pistol.

 

[daBear]

I have the Llama's in 22, 32, 380 9mm and 45. Fun little scaled down 1911s and the 22s are very accurate indeed.
dB

 

[Ganderite]

Does your Llama shoot high as well?

At 10 yards it shoots about 3" hi.

 

[Brutus]

No one has said outright if this Llama Model II is prohib' or restricted.