Loading Mosin rifle

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Hi guys, is there a trick to load a Mosin rifles from the stripper clips? Every time I’m trying to do that- the cartridge got stuck in the mag well wrong way, the rim catching the lower round’s rim and can not be chambered.
 
You need to stagger the rounds in the stripper clip to start with, so that when you push them down it doesn't result in rim lock. And don't use knock off Chinese stripper clips, they are terrible. Here's a video of a guy who did a mad minute with his Mosin, you can copy what he is doing there.

 
I do not know how the Mosin chargers were loaded - but has to be correct. Confusing to some - the rim lock issue can appear with the No. 1 or No. 4 Lee Enfield in 303 - but the chargers were NOT loaded to be staggered rounds - some little thing in the use - all rounds lined up properly in the rifle mag. Bulk ammo that got to front line was in crates or bandoliers - shells were loaded into the chargers as _-_-_ for the rims - so no "top" or "bottom" to them - they worked either way as "up". But maybe Mosins were different??

Me, the user, can "screw up" the loading process in a Lee Enfield from those chargers - can get rim locks - but is me, and my thumbs - bazillions of rounds were fed perfectly with symmetrically loaded chargers through two World Wars by British, Canadian, Australia/New Zealand and others.
 
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I do not know how the Mosin chargers were loaded - but has to be correct. Confusing to some - the rim lock issue can appear with the No. 1 or No. 4 Lee Enfield in 303 - but the chargers were NOT loaded to be staggered rounds - some little thing in the use - all rounds lined up properly in the rifle mag. Bulk ammo that got to front line was in crates or bandoliers - shells were loaded into the chargers as _-_-_ for the rims - so no "top" or "bottom" to them - they worked either way as "up". But maybe Mosins were different??
Me, the user, can "screw up" the loading process in a Lee Enfield from those chargers - can get rim locks - but is me, and my thumbs - bazillions of rounds were fed perfectly with symmetrically loaded chargers through two World Wars by British, Canadian, Australia/New Zealand and others.

Watch these videos and you will understand what is the INTERRUPTER mechanism in the Mosin and why it was designed this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmLGuw_bqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH03ugoXdvE
 
Another trick that is mentioned in Soviet manuals is that stripper clips and ammo should be lightly(!) oiled, basically, wipe them with a lightly oiled cloth.
 
You need to stagger the rounds in the stripper clip to start with, so that when you push them down it doesn't result in rim lock. And don't use knock off Chinese stripper clips, they are terrible. Here's a video of a guy who did a mad minute with his Mosin, you can copy what he is doing there.

Smoothest bolt on a 91/30 that I’ve ever seen
 
Smoothest bolt on a 91/30 that I’ve ever seen

He mentioned in the comments that it's a non-refurb rifle and he didn't make any mods to the bolt.. I had to spend a couple hours with a dremel and polishing paste and then applied some good gun grease to achieve similar performance.. Also, Barnaul cycles a lot easier then Chinese copperwashed surplus, brass cases cycle even better.
 
No need to stagger the rounds in a stripper clip. My preferred way is to have the rim of round 2 and 4 in front of round 1,3,5.

The quality of the clip matters a lot. So far I've found the ones with little tabs on the ends work the best.
 
Tough guy, T shirt Mosin shooting

Smoothest bolt on a 91/30 that I’ve ever seen

That is one tough guy. Shooting a Mosin that much in a T-shirt. That had to leave a mark. That was the slickest functioning Mosin I have ever seen. Made the mistake of shooting a Winchester 71 while wearing a sweaty T-shirt, rolling a tin can competing with my son (he was shooting a Winchester94/44Mag). That checkered steel buttplate left a lovely waffle bruise on my shoulder:(. Never do that again.
 
I've always just arranged my clips with one rim over the other, and tilted the top round to drive the rest home. Always have been reasonably slick and easy (as far as mosin loading is concerned.)

i've tried the official way and always have ended up with rimlock.

My luck I suppose!
 
Same here. Always works. Arrange them same way you do and use top round as a lever. It doesn't quite work with blanks for some reason though. Even with full length red tips.

I've always just arranged my clips with one rim over the other, and tilted the top round to drive the rest home. Always have been reasonably slick and easy (as far as mosin loading is concerned.)

i've tried the official way and always have ended up with rimlock.

My luck I suppose!
 
I've always just arranged my clips with one rim over the other, and tilted the top round to drive the rest home. Always have been reasonably slick and easy (as far as mosin loading is concerned.)

i've tried the official way and always have ended up with rimlock.

My luck I suppose!

Do reverse enfield loading and use good clips. You can achieve similar performance to man in video (loading wise, bolt work requires lots of practice).
 
Remember to load the stripper clip the proper way. Rim of the cartridge that sits higher in the stripper clip must be in front of the one under it. It will create a distinct look, but to make it easier you can paint the end that goes into the stripper clip guide with the nail polish for example.

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Go ahead and insert your stripper clip.

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Now the important part. Grab the last round, lift it up, pressing the stripper guide to the rear at the same time. It has to line up with the magazine angle.

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Pay attention to the lines visible on the magazine. They should be approximately at the same angle as your stripper clip while you are going to start pressing the rounds into the action. You are using the last round as a convenient tool at this point, holding it up while you're pressing down the remaining rounds in one, smooth move downward. Remember about maintaining the angle of the stripper clip in relation to the magazine. It may sounds complicated, but in fact it's very easy to do. 5 minutes practice can sure help. I'm not using the live rounds here - just to be clear. This is not some trick that you can read about in the Russian official guide, but rather what I have found to be working the best.

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If you're going to keep the stripper clip sitting straight in the action while pressing the rounds down...you're going to experience some, serious struggle. Magazine body is angled and the rimmed cartridges don't like making any corners on their way into the magazine.

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So try to line up everything before you will start pressing the rounds into the magazine. Good luck and have fun!
 
Kinda wish I had some x54 dies to press some dummy rounds. Winter around here is a good time to practice things like this
 
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