Lockhart renegade semi auto conversion

[dfritter1]

Is there though? Last I checked, both lead to banned guns and no recourse for the owners/manufactures (at least recourse that has proven successful)..

Yes.

An OIC effectively means the Crown (as in our King) is saying a gun is illegal by name.

An FRT reclassification is the RCMP opining that a gun is illegal.

One is eminently more easily contested.

 

[apexanimal]

It's funny how the pro semi auto crowd, who presumably are advocates of freedom,are so disrespectful of other people's opinions, especially when they know absolutely nothing about those people.

If my opinion is that this is a bad move by Lockhart that might result in further prohibitions, that view should be respected. You don't have to agree with it.

That's not how freedom works. I don't have to respect opinions. It is the opinion of the government that we cannot be trusted with firearms. That opinion is based on factually incorrect information made in bad faith for political gain, and anyone who holds it is grossly misinformed at best and a total moron at worst. You are free to have that opinion, and I'm free to call you cucked for having it. Appeasing the govt by following laws that dont even exist yet so they graciously let you keep your lawful property you worked and paid for is beyond ridiculous. Also "pro semi auto crowd" lol. Id hope that would describe every gun owner in the country, apparently not.

 

[STEELCITYSLICKER]

So if this conversion gets prohibited as an AR variant will this somehow end up affecting all Renegades? Other than different upper/lower this will likely be the same outcome as the Crypto for the converted semi-auto.

Yup. The.piwrrs that be will state that since the Renegade can "easily" (remember, they get to decide what easy is) be converted into what is a prohibited device (an "AR15 variant"), they will ban it.

A freaking straight pull rifle.

 

[I Dont Care About You]

If my opinion is that this is a bad move by Lockhart that might result in further prohibitions, that view should be respected. You don't have to agree with it.

Awwwwww ..... pumpkin. Did the mean freedom loving gun owners hurt your widdle feewings?

Respect has to be earned and being a simp to authoritarian govt will NEVER gain you any respect here. And I REALLY don't care what you think about that.

anyone who holds it is grossly misinformed at best and a total moron at worst. You are free to have that opinion, and I'm free to call you cucked for having it.

Yup.

 

[I Dont Care About You]

Yup. The.piwrrs that be will state that since the Renegade can "easily" (remember, they get to decide what easy is) be converted into what is a prohibited device (an "AR15 variant"), they will ban it.

A freaking straight pull rifle.

A. It wouldn't be a Prohibited Device. It may be classified as a Prohibited Firearm.

B. It won't be a Prohibited Firearm until the RCMP decide to classify it as such and they'd need to use the "easily converted" excuse but that logically includes a massive number of guns in the country .... yes I know that won't stop them making a stupid and illogical decision.

C. That thing is no more an AR variant than a Remington 700 is.

D. Blame the govt, not the company making the product. The problem solely lies with our friggin ridiculous govt.

 

[androoze]

Yes.

An OIC effectively means the Crown (as in our King) is saying a gun is illegal by name.

An FRT reclassification is the RCMP opining that a gun is illegal.

One is eminently more easily contested.

While I agree with what you're saying, I don't think it matters much. It's becoming an argument over semantics, at least to the liberals. You're pointing out two systems that have been heavily abused by the Libs and they don't care because both mechanisms net the same authoritarian result -> banning of gun(s) with no checks or balances.

One may be eminently more easily contested in theory, but has it happened? ATRS sure hasn't had any success contesting FRT changes, nor has the CCFR contesting OICs. Meanwhile the libs get their political points, gun owners get shafted and threatened, the manufacturers head towards bankruptcy, and the industry gets gutted.

To your previous point that they likely wouldn't do an OIC just for the MRA guns...I also agree. They would simply add them to the next OIC, which I'm sure is already queued up.

 

[androoze]

It's funny how the pro semi auto crowd, who presumably are advocates of freedom,are so disrespectful of other people's opinions, especially when they know absolutely nothing about those people.

If my opinion is that this is a bad move by Lockhart that might result in further prohibitions, that view should be respected. You don't have to agree with it.

"pro semi auto crowd"??? The left-wing identity politics hurts the head but I'll bite... what crowd are you part of?

 

[STEELCITYSLICKER]

A. It wouldn't be a Prohibited Device. It may be classified as a Prohibited Firearm.

B. It won't be a Prohibited Firearm until the RCMP decide to classify it as such and they'd need to use the "easily converted" excuse but that logically includes a massive number of guns in the country .... yes I know that won't stop them making a stupid and illogical decision.

C. That thing is no more an AR variant than a Remington 700 is.

D. Blame the govt, not the company making the product. The problem solely lies with our friggin ridiculous govt.

A. Sure? End result would be the same.

B. I didn't say anything different. They will make the decision, no matter the level of logic that is involved. It is a black, scary rifle that can be "easily converted." Therefor, it shall be banned.

C. I dont disagree.

D. No. While I will blame the gov first, Lockhart has made a decision that will make them some $$ in the short term but put another company, along with owners of the Renegade at risk. Not cool.

 

[XCR User]

D: While governments come and go this Liberial government just seems to LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, and yet still these STUPID people get elected (SKEWED) Too bad Canadians don't send these BAG SUCKING Liberials packing up and arrested for these unsurmontable scandles by the RCMP. Interesting that the bed partner of the Liberials could be the RCMP since they are scheming in the background with there FRT non binding not law. On the other hand I like Canadian Innovators on working with detailed Gun Re-Manufacturing we need to bypass these variant and bill C-21 excuses that binds Canadian Manufacturing.