Loctite Action Screws?
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As far as I am concerned..Loctite should never be used on anything to do with a firearm.
want a good example..I bought a gun, with a rail..wasn't the rail I wanted..go to take it off and someone decided to Loctite the ##### on..yeah stripped the torx screws off and had a real fun time getting them out. There are torque specs for a reason, the threads will stretch enough to keep the bolts, screws tight..there that's my rant on Loctite..and I don't care what color it is..I know I will have some backlash from all the Blue Loctite fans..it is made for automotive and industrial applications not precision firearms.
want a good example..I bought a gun, with a rail..wasn't the rail I wanted..go to take it off and someone decided to Loctite the ##### on..yeah stripped the torx screws off and had a real fun time getting them out. There are torque specs for a reason, the threads will stretch enough to keep the bolts, screws tight..there that's my rant on Loctite..and I don't care what color it is..I know I will have some backlash from all the Blue Loctite fans..it is made for automotive and industrial applications not precision firearms.
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Blue Locktite on the screws for your scope rail, lots of shock an vibration, you want them to stay tight. I have locktited dozens of rails, never broke a screw, I am not sure the problem was blue locktite
As far as action screws, I use 40 inch pounds. It works fine, and i have never had an action come loose.
There is a green version of Loctite made for firearms. I use it all the time very sparingly. Never had a problem.
There are screws on the Robarm XCR that if you don't loctite, the gun will loose parts.
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If a rifle is bedded properly, you will only need firm hand tight to secure the action bolts.
Vibration is what causes stuff to loosen up. If bedded properly, the vibration due to firing is controlled by the bedding and doesn't get to the action bolts.
I don't loctite my action bolts and have not had any issues.
If your HS stock has not been bedded properly, consider that a good investment.
Jerry
Vibration is what causes stuff to loosen up. If bedded properly, the vibration due to firing is controlled by the bedding and doesn't get to the action bolts.
I don't loctite my action bolts and have not had any issues.
If your HS stock has not been bedded properly, consider that a good investment.
Jerry
Oh f**k here we go..good find..not related at all. BTW..are these XCRs considered precision fireams..maybe you can think of some handguns while your at it...
I will just put it this way..if a person uses Loctite on a gun..then decides to sell it without disclosing it and I buy it..I will want a full refund plus shipping both both ways. This is my opinion and I am allowed it.
I'm totally with RobertI.
Loc-tite for scope rails and scope rings (blue or 440) and leave the action screws alone. Torque depends on the action; I use 65 inch pounds on Remington single shot actions.
...unless you use an XP100 action and the actions screws come in from the top, in which case you have to take the friggen gun apart to touch the screws. They get 440'd
Loc-tite for scope rails and scope rings (blue or 440) and leave the action screws alone. Torque depends on the action; I use 65 inch pounds on Remington single shot actions.
...unless you use an XP100 action and the actions screws come in from the top, in which case you have to take the friggen gun apart to touch the screws. They get 440'd
noneck180, it's certainly reasonable to ask during the buying stage whether someone has ever loctited something on a gun. Gun maintenance is a personal preference kind of thing; there are certainly things I wouldn't want to have been done to a used gun I buy. However, loctite is not usually mentioned or considered with used firearms. Maybe some problems you've had are due to loctite plus too high a fastening torque. I'm a fan of using correct bit sizes as well as torque screwdrivers and wrenches to make sure everything is correct.
Blue Loctite isn't the end of the world. For example, on my first (sold) and second savage I blue loctited the scope bases in at 12 inlbs. When I changed the scope bases on the first savage, they unscrewed without a problem.
Same thing with my aimpoint T1. I had an ARMS mount on it, then switched it to an ADM mount because the ARMS mount wasn't adjustable for tension (annoying to say the least!). I had installed the ARMS mount with the rather small factory hex screws, using blue loctite and a reasonable amount of hand torque, and they came out without stripping anything. I'm happy that the ADM mount came with its own Torx screws though.
For your handgun example
you need red loctite for front sights on Glocks.
I've read that blue loctite can be loosened by heating; one strategy is to heat the screw up with a soldering iron. I tried that with my 40W soldering iron but I couldn't appreciably heat up the screw. Maybe it requires a more powerful iron, or a better way of making thermal contact with the screw...
Blue Loctite isn't the end of the world. For example, on my first (sold) and second savage I blue loctited the scope bases in at 12 inlbs. When I changed the scope bases on the first savage, they unscrewed without a problem.
Same thing with my aimpoint T1. I had an ARMS mount on it, then switched it to an ADM mount because the ARMS mount wasn't adjustable for tension (annoying to say the least!). I had installed the ARMS mount with the rather small factory hex screws, using blue loctite and a reasonable amount of hand torque, and they came out without stripping anything. I'm happy that the ADM mount came with its own Torx screws though.
For your handgun example
you need red loctite for front sights on Glocks.I've read that blue loctite can be loosened by heating; one strategy is to heat the screw up with a soldering iron. I tried that with my 40W soldering iron but I couldn't appreciably heat up the screw. Maybe it requires a more powerful iron, or a better way of making thermal contact with the screw...
I have been working in the firearms industry for 35 yrs and have probably mounted 50,000,00 scopes on every conceivable caliber of rifle and have never used loctite of any color on one and have never had a scope or a base or a guard screw come loose under no circumstance should it be used simply degrease all your screws and screw holes and that is sufficient . I have certainly had to repair many rifles where it has been used and it is not a pretty site .
i put the blue on the base of all my rifles, a little insurance goes a long ways on a base. the torque is not easily checked on the base as are the rest of the screws on a rifle. besides the blue removes easily if not overtorqued in the first place. so far as action screws i dont see the need as has been said already there is more than enough torque there to hold things in place.
