Long Barrel Winchester M 94 rifles
- Thread starter Highwind
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Something I'm interested in is if anyone has taken a model 94 and had a replacement barrel made that is longer them the OEM barrel. Something like a M 94 with a 20" barrel and changed it to a 24" or 26" barrel etc. And if so, how did you deal with the barrel information stamping on the new barrel...?
I've always preferred the 20" barrel 'carbine' versions of the venerable Model '94.
Have had more than a few 26" barrel rifle versions over the years but just couldn't warm up to them.
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Have had more than a few 26" barrel rifle versions over the years but just couldn't warm up to them.
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NAA.
Of course I have some short ones, too. I'm not a bigot, ffs.
Truth be told, I don't own a 30-30 lever gun. 45-70, 32-40, 38-55, 35 Rem, 25-20, 300 Savage, and maybe something I'm forgetting about, but no 30-30.
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My "last gun I'll ever sell" rifle is a M1894 32-40, 26" round barrel. My great grandfather bought it new in 1912. My cousin has GGF's colt SAA and we have got together a couple times to shoot, and to let the guns visit and talk about old times.
Yea if I had a choice I'd probably prefer it that way. In fact I'd prefer it if Winchester did it to keep the factory look.
I have a M1886 with a new barrel. It's only stamped "45-70". I don't know of any barrel makers who can recreate the original barrel markings but maybe. If I was a barrel maker, think I might be worried somebody would accuse me of counterfeiting, trying to pass them off as original. Probably just me...
I'm not sure if anyone has used this site in the USA but it may come down to being cost prohibited with import fees etc...? http://www.winchesterbarrels.com/store/p32/1894winchesterbarrel.html
double the price landed in canada then 200-300$ installation as said not sure why a person would spend 1000$ to rebarrell a 94
When I posted up the Cinnabar Long Barrel M 94 video the thought was to let CGNers know that there was a time when customers ordered rifles beyond the 20" length of Carbine version. My Great Grandfather had an M94 with a 26" Hex barrel. He was a trapper, hunter and bush guide. I thought that this video was quite interesting to me. I thought that others may like it too. I'd like to get two new longer barrels for two separate rifles. 1. Winchester 94AE Big Bore in 356 Winchester - which has slightly less velocity when compared to the 358 Winchester; due to case design and size. I figured with a barrel that is 4" to 6" longer I would get the 356 Winchester cartridge to slightly higher velocity. It's something that I'd like to do. Which is kind of a throw back to the older M94 lever rifles which had in some cases, much longer barrels then 26". In this way I could wring out a bit more velocity. And the 2nd Rifle I'd do this to is the Marlin 1895 45-70 with the OEM 22" barrel. This one I would consider a new barrel that extends an additional 4" which would make it a 26" barrel. With the additional barrle length and a tad more weight it might - tame the recoil down a tad while maintaining accuracy. They are both special rifles and as a personal preference they'd be more Special (to me). They would both be scoped - So that's my goal.
I think Ron Smith in Alberta is still making and installing barrels on winchester lever guns and everything else, too. He also does rebores, can covert a worn out 30-30 barrel into a new 38-55 barrel and the price was good, cheaper than a new barrel. His prices were altogether pretty reasonable last I checked, which is few years ago. He is getting pretty old but his son (grandson?) had started working with him to carry on the business. It wouldn't cost anything to make a phone call and see what he could do.
maybe take a look around and see what the more popular models and lengths are and find the reasons why
old guns fit their purpose, shorter fit the leather scabbard better on a horse, longer were carried for hunting where the longer sight radius made for better accuracy, super longs were a gimmick imo. Pure target rifles were usually 30+ " single shots with tall ladder or tangent sights, scopes were a new novelty that not many could afford at the time. Velocity was never an issue when 300 to 500 gr slugs were chucked out at bp velocities near 1000 fps and target shooters were hitting to 1000 yds
"They would both be scoped - So that's my goal."
old guns fit their purpose, shorter fit the leather scabbard better on a horse, longer were carried for hunting where the longer sight radius made for better accuracy, super longs were a gimmick imo. Pure target rifles were usually 30+ " single shots with tall ladder or tangent sights, scopes were a new novelty that not many could afford at the time. Velocity was never an issue when 300 to 500 gr slugs were chucked out at bp velocities near 1000 fps and target shooters were hitting to 1000 yds
"They would both be scoped - So that's my goal."
best reason right there, good luck with your quest
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At one time when I was really into Marlins, I had a exc 1895 rifle made in first couple yrs of production, I would have to look that up
Hex barrel, 28" , it looked Right to me, but would be a bear to carry all day, but that's what horses where made for.
BTW I was riding with the old boy from next door farm/ ranch in the river hills few years back ( 65?) and he pulls out his old win 25-20 and up and nails a cot way out across a valley , where I had a hard time even seeing the thing.
that was a long barrel rifle his father bought .
Late years I tried a couple times to trade him a new one or bunch of cash long after he retired, but not a chance.
money did not mean much to him and it was Dad's so I quite understand that.
I never measured it but looked about 28-30" long and skinny, Very well used.
