Long range on a budget?! Magpul stock for savage?

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I was looking at the Savage 12 FV at cabelas. It is a relatively cheap gun and reports seem to have it being a tac driver.
It seems like a good rifle to build on for a casual shooter. Ill be picking up a 6.5 over the 308.
The rifle will be a target/prairie dog/coyote gun. (Ive carried heavier and worse into the field after yotes, like ruger precisions lol)
Now its weak point definitely seems to be the stock.

Does magpul make their stock to fit the savage short actions?
What other chassis/stocks would you recommend? Id like to keep it less then the cost of the rifle lol. (needs to be cheek height adjustable I always have to raise them up)
I am fairly set on the savage because the price is so good with amazing reports of use. It was a struggle not to get a Weatherby as im a big fan of them and do love their triggers.
 
Why not just tape a block of foam to the comb on the Savage and shoot it as-is firstly? Adjustable stocks are great but if you can get away with an add-on adjustable comb and the gun is a "tack driver" out of the box then why replace the stock at all unless it doesn't shoot well or breaks?
 
Research the type of firing pin assembly that rifle has. I have been a long time Savage fan and used to use many of these actions for my LR rifles.

however, over the years, they have changed alot of the bolt internals with mixed results. It has gotten so confusing, I can't actually tell what parts are used.

at last count, there were at least 3 firing pin set ups... old style is great, newest style is not my fave.

2nd problem will be ejection. This is a chronic problem and action specific. some actions will toss the brass very nicely, others it dribbles out and or stays on top of the next rd. Fixing is not always easy due to availability of parts and just how the bolt head was made. I have tried for years to find a reliable and repeatable solution and haven't.

If you must have a repeater, I would look elsewhere unless you can confirm the operation and internals of any specific rifle.

YMMV

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
Research the type of firing pin assembly that rifle has. I have been a long time Savage fan and used to use many of these actions for my LR rifles.

however, over the years, they have changed alot of the bolt internals with mixed results. It has gotten so confusing, I can't actually tell what parts are used.

at last count, there were at least 3 firing pin set ups... old style is great, newest style is not my fave.

2nd problem will be ejection. This is a chronic problem and action specific. some actions will toss the brass very nicely, others it dribbles out and or stays on top of the next rd. Fixing is not always easy due to availability of parts and just how the bolt head was made. I have tried for years to find a reliable and repeatable solution and haven't.

If you must have a repeater, I would look elsewhere unless you can confirm the operation and internals of any specific rifle.

YMMV

Jerry
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They also have horrible QA/QC. Modern Savages are prone to problems.

Not a great value proposition in todays precision rifle market.
 
Mystic Precision said:
Research the type of firing pin assembly that rifle has. I have been a long time Savage fan and used to use many of these actions for my LR rifles.

however, over the years, they have changed alot of the bolt internals with mixed results. It has gotten so confusing, I can't actually tell what parts are used.

at last count, there were at least 3 firing pin set ups... old style is great, newest style is not my fave.

2nd problem will be ejection. This is a chronic problem and action specific. some actions will toss the brass very nicely, others it dribbles out and or stays on top of the next rd. Fixing is not always easy due to availability of parts and just how the bolt head was made. I have tried for years to find a reliable and repeatable solution and haven't.

If you must have a repeater, I would look elsewhere unless you can confirm the operation and internals of any specific rifle.

YMMV

Jerry
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kthomas said:
They also have horrible QA/QC. Modern Savages are prone to problems.

Not a great value proposition in todays precision rifle market.
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Hmm that sucks to hear, I had a few savage 10/110 that shot really well and had no issues.

Maybe ill just bump the budget up. Any work on remington coming back around ? Should I just go for tikka or my tried and true love (weatherby)
 
Again, if you can test the actual rifle you want to use, you can see if it does what you want or not. I have given up because of all the things I have talked about above...

The prefit match barrel options continue to grow. Today, the factory actions I would recommend for a mag fed repeater are the Rem 783 (assume they are coming back into production), 700 (cause all the widgets), Tikka T3 (isn't a lighter factory action that works), Howa/Wby Vanguard (built like a tank)

Then all the aftermarket actions that can use the Savage action thread.

I just don't see the point of fighting the machine especially when pricing isn't that cheap anymore.

Let me know what I can help with Thanks

Jerry
 
Skip right over savage and Remington. Tikka is about the best budget factory offering these days. Lots of aftermarket support on them, and prefit barrels are becoming more popular for the tikka so you could swap to a different caliber if you wanted. There is a great build series on YouTube about upgrading the tikka.
 
Mystic Precision said:
Again, if you can test the actual rifle you want to use, you can see if it does what you want or not. I have given up because of all the things I have talked about above...

The prefit match barrel options continue to grow. Today, the factory actions I would recommend for a mag fed repeater are the Rem 783 (assume they are coming back into production), 700 (cause all the widgets), Tikka T3 (isn't a lighter factory action that works), Howa/Wby Vanguard (built like a tank)

Then all the aftermarket actions that can use the Savage action thread.

I just don't see the point of fighting the machine especially when pricing isn't that cheap anymore.

Let me know what I can help with Thanks

Jerry
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Always appreciate hearing from those who know whats up!
Weight isn't my number 1 concern, but being light is nice plus tikka are very smooth!
I was actually unaware that Wby are considered to be built like a tank. I just have had 4-5 of em now, never had one that wasnt a sub MOA gun with match ammo.

For those mentioning barrels, I dont think I would ever be granted the funds or time to shoot a barrel out and have to change. Looking for a barreled action combo that will do sub moa. Then likely drop it in a chassis.
 
Have a look at howa then. I believe they have some barreled actions available. I had one in 223 that I put in an xrs. Action was smooth, upgraded the trigger to a Timney. Action has an integral recoil lug which is a nice feature. I sold it as I wanted to build another custom, but I'd consider howa in the same sort of league as tikka.
 
As Jerry mentioned my Savage had ejection issues, ordered a new bolt kit from the US was like 20.00, and now it just flings the brass. My Savage Model 10 Hog Hunter in .223 with a medium contour barrel keeps up with rifles costing much more, my Army buddy shoots some amazing groups with my Savage and has an old 700. I dislike tupperware stocks. Bought a factory Savage tactical stock for 50.00, bottom metal for 45.00, bedded the action, sprayed in some foam under the butt stock pad, textured the stock, it is very rigid, and had some 3D printed magazines made. Love the Accutrigger and smooth bolt of my Savage, so many others feel gritty and cheap.

I am a Savage fan, but with all the Remington QC issues, would most likely go with a T3 Tikka, or an old Remington 700, but if you want a 6.5 it's going to be a new platform like the Savage Tactical 110 or T3.
 
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Mystic Precision said:
Again, if you can test the actual rifle you want to use, you can see if it does what you want or not. I have given up because of all the things I have talked about above...

The prefit match barrel options continue to grow. Today, the factory actions I would recommend for a mag fed repeater are the Rem 783 (assume they are coming back into production), 700 (cause all the widgets), Tikka T3 (isn't a lighter factory action that works), Howa/Wby Vanguard (built like a tank)

Then all the aftermarket actions that can use the Savage action thread.

I just don't see the point of fighting the machine especially when pricing isn't that cheap anymore.

Let me know what I can help with Thanks

Jerry
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Opinion on Bergara rifles?

Bergara HMR WIlderness 6.5 Creedmoor 24" is only about $200 more then the regular HMR.
Has an exta 2 inches on the barrel, muzzle device and some ceracoating.

Worth the price difference?
Im assuming the stocks are pretty much the same minus looks.

I dont plan on pushing past 500 often. My local range goes to 700. I shoot yotes 300 and under. Save the 200 and go with the base HMR ?
 
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I have very happy with Tikka centerfire and Rimfire. That’s the way I would go. A Yo Dave trigger spring and an MDT chassis picked by your budget and top with a decent optic.
 
Canadiankeeper said:
Opinion on Bergara rifles?

Bergara HMR WIlderness 6.5 Creedmoor 24" is only about $200 more then the regular HMR.
Has an exta 2 inches on the barrel, muzzle device and some ceracoating.

Worth the price difference?
Im assuming the stocks are pretty much the same minus looks.

I dont plan on pushing past 500 often. My local range goes to 700. I shoot yotes 300 and under. Save the 200 and go with the base HMR ?
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I can't comment on a factory rifle because I have no idea how any one factory barrel is going to shoot. Why I have suggested starting with a good action and adding a prefit match barrel. for similar money, this combo will shoot so much better... and the further you go, the more dramatic the difference.

For what a barrel costs vs what ammo costs, I don't bother with factory barrels anymore.

YMMV

Jerry
 
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