looking for a good light bush bear defense shotgun

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Hi guys, I am going to be involved in exploration this summer, and since it would be a fat chance for me to get a bush carry license, I was wondering if there are any good, reliable, small, light shotguns out there that would be good for bear defense. I looked for good threads on this but found nothing useful.

Thanks for any advice and experience you can provide,

J
 
Norinco HP9 12Ga 14" barrel 4+1 fully parkerized they sell for about $275 new Reliable gun has them i think, they are very small and compact my favorite bush gun.. i have thousands of rounds through mine no problems ... I dont think remington or mossberg make any short barrel shotguns because of US laws also Remington 870 Parts will interchange on the HP9 . also dont get the lookalike Norinco Homeland Security Model shotgun its junk..
 
Any barrel length in mind?
18/18.5" or ya looking for shorter 12 and 14" kinda stuff?

Canada Ammo does sell 12.5" barrels that can be put on the rem 870, if you looking for short and top quality/reliability.

Myself I bought the 5 round removable magazine 12.5" grizzly's (rem870 clone) and really like it, but have not had it for a summer yet to test it out in the bush.
Id did take some love to get working smoothly, but i think its going to be pretty reliable now.

Also the above mentioned norinco for shot barrel stuff.
 
well a short barrel would be preferable, the more more mobile and compact it is while being able to be ready at a moments notice the better.

what about these grizzly 8.5' shotguns? are they any good?
 
What about a cut down single shot or SXS?

By cutdown if you mean stock chopped off, I would say no way. You can't compare accuracy and speed between a pistol grip, and full stock.

If you simply mean because a break action is simple and has no large heavy action then yes it is light and handy, but I would not bet my life on even on 2 shells in a sxs. One could misfire, or you might miss one, and accuracy on a side by side is questionable especially if cut down.

The 870, is a heavier shotgun than a Mossberg, and the HP9 is even heavier still. I have an 18 1/2 inch Maverick 88 that would fit the bill perfectly! It is essentially a Mossberg 500, with a cross bolt safety. It is cheap, reliable, and light weight as it gets. It's nice to be able to throw it around and beat it up with no concern!

Just my 0.02 cents!
 
We just gave a 20 ga 870 tactical to my sister for christmas. She's up in Churchill (polar bears) and a 20 ga is light but still has plenty of stopping power. I had to test fire it to make sure it was ok and the thing was great fun.
 
X-2 on The Mav 88

Great cheap shotgun, tough and reliable, shoots anything, and will take a beating!
(so long as it has dual action bars.)
get a collapsable stock even better for hiking and can be extended while your at your destination., thus best of both worlds
 
While I love my 14" HP9-1, my Mossberg 500 is lighter in weight even with the 18.5" barrel due to it's alloy receiver.

It's the one on top.

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To be used effectively, the shotgun must have a shoulder stock. This means that you can significantly reduce barrel length to stay within the 26" OAL rule, with the proviso that barrels shorter than 18.5" are manufactured to the shorter length. Why it matters who wields the hacksaw I don't know, but that's the rule. Having said that I don't particularly like the very short barrels that require the magazine tube to be shortened, effectively reducing the number of rounds you have access to prior to reloading and raising the risk of one's hand slipping forward off a wet forend, into the path of the muzzle just as the gun fires. I think 14" is a practical minimum barrel length.

While I tend to like things like sidesaddles, longish magazine tubes, rifle sights, choke tubes, and a flashlight on my bear gun, these accessories can add a significant amount of combined weight. The purpose of the choke tubes is not so much to make you gun more versatile, which it can, but to increase the thickness of the muzzle to protect it from damage.

Based on your requirements, I would look for a plain Jane 12 gauge Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870 with a 14"-20" smooth bore barrel. I would opt for a cylinder bore choke tube to protect the muzzle. I prefer a ghost ring and post sight, but a bead can work. Remington's bead front sight is superior to Mossbergs in that it is on a pedestal where the Mossberg is attached directly on the barrel. Due to the height of the receiver, this will cause the Mossberg shooter to hit high, even at very short range. The LOP should be cut down from the common 14"+ to 13"-13.5" including the thickness of a good recoil pad, making the gun a little faster to get into action. The LOP is better even if its a bit too short rather than too long, as guns with long LOPs are very slow to get into action; especially when we are all geared up for cold or wet weather in bulky clothing. A wood stock is easier to shorten than is a plastic one. But the ribbed plastic forends are much tougher than wood, and less slippery when wet.

From the standpoint of strength, your sling should be attached to a sling adapter that clamps around both the barrel and magazine tube, rather than a QD stud in the magazine cap. I would choose a simple 1.25" nylon web sling. Keep it short and tight except when you carry the gun slung. If the gun has to be retrieved in an emergency, the sling is out of the way and won't snag on anything.

I make of point of never shooting cracker shells in my personal guns. These things are corrosive and will quickly ruin the finish on the inside of the barrel unless an unreasonable level of care is taken. A better choice is to carry a blank firing pistol for launching scare cartridges. As a rule I think it is a poor practice to load anything but lethal cartridges in your protection gun. You can end up shooting a slug at a bear you intend only to scare, or worse, fire a less lethal round when you need to kill the bear in an emergency. If you intend to have more than one type of ammunition in camp, load the magazine to capacity with slugs leaving the chamber empty. This allows you to single load anything else you shoot through the gun. Always top off the magazine after any shooting.

The point of bringing up the question of ammunition has to do with the cleaning accessories you intend to have in the bush with you. Having too much is unnecessary, but having none is unwise. All to often these life saving tools are abused to extent that they won't work and everyone is surprised when the click instead of bang! At the very least you need tools to strip the gun, which ordinarily is either a pin punch for the pins that secure the trigger group or a small screw driver if the pins have been replaced with screws, as would be the case if you installed a sidesaddle. A thin piece of metal that fits the notches, and that you can hold in a small crescent wrench is all you need to undo the retaining nut that holds the wood or plastic furniture to the forend tube. You need a jointed cleaning rod, and I would opt for a steel rod like the ones made for the M-16 rather than an aluminum one, which could be easily broken. The steel rod needs a shotgun brush adaptor, a brush, a jag, and a zip lock full of cotton patches. Solvent is optional, boiling water with dish soap works in a pinch, evaporates quickly and doesn't produce rust, but a good grade of gun oil and a water displacing aerosol is mandatory. One area that often gets overlooked during the cleaning process is the forend tube under the wood or plastic furniture. If the gun gets wet, as soon as possible, strip the furniture off the forend and wipe the metal dry inside and out. A little light grease smeared on the retaining nut threads makes the job easier. Take care of your gun and it will take care of you.
 
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thanks boomer thats good info, I'm just worried about the gun getting hung up on every damn branch when I am going through bush, hence why I was thinking about a shorter barrel, I will have to look at some 14' shotties to see if they will be a good size.
 
Maverick 88, 18 inch barrel, around $200, receiver s aluminum, stock is synthetic, hence about as light as can be, 6 shots, the 20 inch security model is the same, except holds 8 shots. They are a dependable tough, shotgun.
 
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