Looking for a HP smith in Halifax area...

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My Inglis HP is acting up on me and I'd like to get it unf*cked sooner that later. The trigger does not seem to be dropping the hammer fully and I don't care to make it worse as I don't know what I'm doing. I also have some feed problems which I suspect is from the mag lips needing some pinching in so I'd like that looked at as well.

I moved back last summer so I'm not totally familiar with the scene out here. Can anyone recommend a good smith that will take care of my Oct 44 Inglis and get it working the way God intended it to work? Halifax area ideal, within the province preferred.

Thanks!:)
 
"...does not seem to be dropping the hammer..." Does it go bang? Or does the half #### engage? What ammo?
What exactly happens when you get feeding problems?
 
Pull the trigger, the hammer falls just short of striking the pin. It does not go bang in it's current state. I wish I had a parts diagram handy but I don't. A buddy on the local military shooting team was over and he said the trigger mechanism did not seem normal to him but neither of us wanted to play with it. About all I can say is that it does not seem to be assembled correctly (had it at a smith last year to have the mag safety re-installed and was never really pleased since) and therefore the hammer is not completely travelling forward. I do not want to force it.

Feed problems: commercial (Winclean, Fed Cart) and Wolf reloads. When it was working, it would fire 2 or 3 then I'd get a round improperly fed holding the slide open. I'd have to ease the slide back with the barrel pointed downwards to let the round chamber then continue firing until it happened again. It seemed like the rounds were too freely feeding, thus jamming up the slide so I suspected loose mag lips. Due to the above, I haven't been able to test it on a variety of mags.
 
Sounds like your tripping lever (the part of your trigger that usually sticks up past the top rails when you squeeze the trigger) isn't installed properly or is damaged.

Here is a blow up with the item identified.

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The trigger spring (item 021) in the pic is likely also part of your problem equation as it is what acts on the tripping lever to return it to its resting position after trigger is released. Could also be that your last smith bent the trigger spring (item 021) upon installing the trigger axis pin (item 033) which will also cause you tons of problems. Your feed problems are very likely magazine related as well. Hope this helps a little.
 
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That's very good. I'm swapping emails and pics with recce as I type but your diagram is bang on. The entire trigger mechanism, tripping lever and mag safety included, are pivoting as a single unit rather than the tripping lever sliding independently in the groove forward of the mag housing on the right side.

When I press the mag safety in, it frees up the tripping lever and allows it to enter that groove however when I pull the trigger, the whole mechanism reverts to the original condition. Also to note that the tripping lever moves very freely from side to side to the point where I can almost pull the thing out.
 
The mag safety itself also acts on the tripping lever within the trigger frame. I'ld bet money it was installed improperly or damaged on assembly......I've been working on BHP's for quite a few years.....I've seen this happen before.....
 
From picture one, it appears that your trigger axis pin hole may be burred on its forward edge and possibly out of round, but it's hard to tell for sure. If it is only burred, it is rerpairable, but if it is out of round, it'll require replacing the whole trigger.

On picture two, it is quite apparant that the mag safety has a burred or worn spot on it where the tripping lever bears on it. I would replace this part.

On picture three, the small protrusion that correspondingly bears on the mag safety looks at least worn, if not slightly burred as well, but it's hard for me to be sure on that one because it's a bad angle shot of that area on the lever. The leg of the lever appears OK, but a different angled pic of it with the small protrusion facing up would help more. The trigger axis pin looks OK, but may have some peening on the head, which would lead me to repair or replace it as well.

My general conclusion would be that you need may to possible replace the trigger body, definitely need a new mag safety, and may even need a new tripping lever fitted as well depending on the condition of the side of it I cannot clearly see in the pic. Obviously this is inconclusive due to the fact I cannot handle or inspect the whole pistol for other faults that may be associate with the problems you are experiencing. (hammer, hammer strut, hammer spring, sear spring, sear, etc). I sure hope this is helping you a little at least, and wish I was closer to properly diagnose the faults for you properly....
 
J-man..if you need another Inglis for comparison purposes..let me know. Mine's a CH version but the trigger group is the same AFAIK.
 
Thanks Striker, I'll let you know.

recce sent a great package of photos and instructions and now that the kids are in bed, I plan on pulling it out and seeing if I can make it work. My only concern right now is that his spring seems longer than mine, as if mine is missing a piece off the front end.

If I completely #### it all up to sh*t, it won't be any more useless than it is now!:D

Update: my spring is indeed broken (the little 'L' bend down in the front). When I pull the trigger, it's not returning to the original position. Anyone have a spare spring?
 
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no one? no one knows of a smith in the province of Nova Scotia? My rem model 12 12guage doesnt seem to want to flip the rounds up into receiver when action is pulled back. If done hard.. and i mean hard.. the the round coming from mag with engage the flip thing that lets the guide pop up and guide the new round in. I have other semi's and i dont have to #### action 1/2 as hard to chamber new round. Also.. the screw in choke got stock... and as i didnt have a proper scew choke wrench.. i ####ed it up and craked end of barrel 1/8. Now i have to get this sawed off to fix rip. Why... why do i even bother to try. 90% of things i try to fix i just #### up worse. And to make matters worse... this was done in front of a friend who came over with money in hand to buy the gun. Boy... did i feel like an ass.....
 
There is a 'smith in Millville on Cape Breton Island. 10 minutes before you get to the ferry terminal in North Sydney. I can't recall his name and do not know of his reputation, but he is there all the same.......sorry, not much help, but any is better than nothing....
 
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no one? no one knows of a smith in the province of Nova Scotia? .....
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Sam Adams (Truro - More precison guns)
Jim Adams (Hali - semi retired, maybe worth a call)
Valhalla (Truro)
Dale Young (not sure if Dale is still doing work)
Htanikus (not sure if he does smithing, but doubt it)

NB
Randy's gun Repair (Tabistinac)
T-Bos (Moncton)
Green Mountain (near Gagetown)


Yeah, a little bit of me is laughing at your pain BHMB ;)
Sad isn't it, a province of 1 million, and not a half decent gunstore and smith left.
 
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Update: my spring is indeed broken (the little 'L' bend down in the front). When I pull the trigger, it's not returning to the original position. Anyone have a spare spring?
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Marstar has them listed. Part # B35-021 . $6.00.
 
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