Looking for a quality .22lr plinker/hunting gun

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Hi all.

I'm currently investigating .22lr rifles, and am curious what ppl are using. The guy at my local gun store tried really hard to sell me a Ruger 10/22, but I'm not convinced on them. The CZ 430 and 450 both look really nice. I want to use the gun for both plinking and shooting of very small game in the bush. I also want a decent gun to be able to teach my son and daughters on once they hit 10 and I can take them hunting. Any thoughts?
 
what didn't you like about the 10/22? i love it. they are very accurate - and given the price it's hard to beat. there are a lot of aftermarket parts (stocks, triggers, barrels, etc...) i would recommend a 10/22 to everyone
 
There is a lot of love around here for 10/22's, mine gets used every range trip...everyone should have at least one. CZ are quality pieces, def something you would enjoy and worthy of passing down to your kids too. I'm a Savage guy myself...love the Accutrigger and they're great shooters.(I have one in .17 hmr and another in .223, buddy has one in .22).
 
I suggest looking for a bolt gun in EES. Not all new guns are as accurate as some of the oldies. Less money to put out and just as much fun. i own a couple 1940 marlin 81s that i will not part with. No mag to lose , and no accidents can happen til they are physically reloaded. A semi does not seem appropriate for a beginner. Even a Cooey 60 or 600 can provide hours of fun.
 
I got the CZ with the heavier barrel around 7 years ago. It is a very well made rifle. Mine shoots almost all ammo exceptionally well and if you find one it really likes it is amazing. Equal to much more expensive rifles. And sometimes the ammo it likes is the cheap stuff!! lol. I've seen the same rifle at fun shoots and they all seem to shoot the same. The only down side is it is a bit heavy for the kids off hand shooting.
 
Savage MKII is the way to go. Mush more accurate than the 10/22 I had. It's a great quality rifle at a great price. I have one with a sporter barrel and no sights attached to the barrel, and synthetic stock. It's a great rifle. I only use mine for target shooting so I wish I got the heavy barrel version, but I still get super tight groups as it is. Great for beginners as it's a bolt action and fun for advanced shooters and a great gun to use hunting in the bush (no fancy finish to worry about scratching)
 
I also agree that a semi-auto isn't the best for new shooters. I highly recommend a Henry lever action
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I too would recommend a savage, however I am going to make a dual recomendation. I suggest that you get a Mark II and a Rascal. Teaching a youngster to shoot with an adult sized rifle makes it difficult for them to hold properly, and can make aiming hard. You need a rifle designed for shorter arms and and lighter build. When they start shooting it is discouraging to shoot all over the target. With a rifle built for a smaller frame, it becomes much less of a problem and shooting skills are easier to teach. Have fun with them.
 
I would go with a cz. For $500 the for and finish is something that you would get on rifle costing lots more. I have had a 10/22 and it wa for spray and pray. I have had 5 savage mkII rifles and hate the accutrigger accuracy left alot to be desired as well. I would gladly pay $500 for a cz over $300 for a savage.
 
There is a Voere on the EE. I have one and like it. It doesn't fit me the best, but I shoot it off a bipod, and it will shoot loonie groups at 50yds with bulk ammo. Not sure if i am capable of better, but that is a gopher getter for me.
 
Welp, now I want a CZ rimfire again. Nice heavy barrel and a classic walnut stock is just perfect Too bad $$ is too tight right now and no one was interested in trading for a Savage .223! Maybe next year!
 
Thanks for teh suggestions guys. I think it'll be likely I'll just get a rascal to train my kids on - and that's ok. It's good to know that a gun for me likely will not fit a 10 yr old kid. I mean, it makes sense now that it's pointed out to me, just didn't think of it.
 
Another vote for the Savage MkII here, for yourself, that is.

CZ's are beautiful rifles, with wonderful walnut stocks, but they're no more accurate than Savage MkII's, and cost three to four times as much (there are tons of threads on here from people with both who will attest to the Savage's accuracy).

If a beautiful stock is important to you, and price is not an object, by all means, go with a CZ. It will put a smile on your face every time you handle it. On the other hand, if you want a dependable workhorse rifle to take into the bush, and to train others with, get a Savage. You won't miss with it, and you won't be afraid to have it fall over & get scratched.

Plus, you'll have enough money left over to buy a Rascal for your kids, ammo, etc.!
 
mh434 said:
Another vote for the Savage MkII here, for yourself, that is.

CZ's are beautiful rifles, but they're no more accurate than Savage MkII's,
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The highlighted part I disagree with.
After shooting close to a dozen or so of each, the CZ has a definite edge in accuracy over the Mk II rifles.
The Savage offerings are accurate enough for most practical purposes, but do not have the consistency
of the CZ rifles.
I may be wrong on this, but I think the CZ is a bit more catholic in the ammo choices. [less fussy]
No comparison in the looks/feel department, obviously!
Regards, Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
The highlighted part I disagree with.
After shooting close to a dozen or so of each, the CZ has a definite edge in accuracy over the Mk II rifles.
The Savage offerings are accurate enough for most practical purposes, but do not have the consistency
of the CZ rifles.
I may be wrong on this, but I think the CZ is a bit more catholic in the ammo choices. [less fussy]
No comparison in the looks/feel department, obviously!
Regards, Eagleye.
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^ Catholic=less fussy? :) I've thrown this photo up at least a few times, but since it's relevant to this topic..here it is again. This Rascal is a huge hit with everyone who has tried it, including my (non-shooting) wife. My daughter calls it her "little green gun" and it's minimal size inspires confidence. Unlike Cooey single shots, or Henry Mini-Bolts, it cocks on the upswing of the bolt, and you don't have to jam the round into the chamber. Just drop it in carefully, it centers most of the time, and the feed ramp collapses as the bolt closes. Simple. Everything is scaled-down with this gun, including the receiver/bolt and bolt handle. It's very small.

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