Looking for advice on 9mm

Talonstylz said:
Well, looks like I will contacting them next week when they are back from the #### show and seeing what they are willing to do to make this right. Looks like consensus here is to not shoot them.
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They are remanufactured ammunition and to prevent bullet setback with mixed brass the cases were sized smaller in diamerter.

The lowest ring around the case is where the expander stopped.

The upper ring at the base of the bullet is normal and would be called wasp waisted.

You were told not to shoot them because you didn't tell us at first they were remanufactured ammunition, and they thought they were reloaded by Joe Smuck the amateur.

SHOOT THEM and start reloading your own ammo and learn about the effects of sizing and expanding your cases. And start by reading the link I posted about preventing bullet set back.

Below a wasp waisted case and its normal with carbide dies. And the lowest ring around your cases is where the expander stopped.

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bigedp51 said:
They are remanufactured ammunition and to prevent bullet setback with mixed brass the cases were sized smaller in diamerter.

The lowest ring around the case is where the expander stopped.

The upper ring at the base of the bullet is normal and would be called wasp waisted.

You were told not to shoot them because you didn't tell us at first they were remanufactured ammunition, and they thought they were reloaded by Joe Smuck the amateur.

SHOOT THEM and start reloading your own ammo and learn about the effects of sizing and expanding your cases. And start by reading the link I posted about preventing bullet set back.
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Def going to be reading through that link you sent. The more info the better.
 
Talonstylz said:
And another difference is, everyone else provided examples and reasoning on why not to shoot them. You on the other hand just say shoot. I’m just getting into reloading and want to learn what is what properly. Hence asking if this is normal or not. Even though it wasn’t loaded by me.
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Talonstylz said:
Provide me with some kind of data that says it’s ok and I’ll gladly shoot them off.
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LMAO, in time you'll learn to listen to me. Muhahahaha.
 
Talonstylz said:
And another difference is, everyone else provided examples and reasoning on why not to shoot them. You on the other hand just say shoot. I’m just getting into reloading and want to learn what is what properly. Hence asking if this is normal or not. Even though it wasn’t loaded by me.
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What he said is actually not wrong...what I noticed is a few of the noticeable head stamps are of brass that is not any of our first pics for brass except the Federal of course. I give my opinion based on the fact I don't like being in the position of yourself which is having to question. Google cases loaded by Dillon Dies and see the Coke bottle effect they leave... your right to question although others wouldn't hesitate to shoot as is.
 
bigedp51 said:
They are remanufactured ammunition and to prevent bullet setback with mixed brass the cases were sized smaller in diamerter.

The lowest ring around the case is where the expander stopped.

The upper ring at the base of the bullet is normal and would be called wasp waisted.

You were told not to shoot them because you didn't tell us at first they were remanufactured ammunition, and they thought they were reloaded by Joe Smuck the amateur.

SHOOT THEM and start reloading your own ammo and learn about the effects of sizing and expanding your cases. And start by reading the link I posted about preventing bullet set back.
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Another question, being they are remanufactured makes them ok to shoot, so if my reloads turn out this way what’s your opinion on that? Just trying to get knowledge.
 
Talonstylz said:
Another question, being they are remanufactured makes them ok to shoot, so if my reloads turn out this way what’s your opinion on that? Just trying to get knowledge.
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It all depends on the dies you select. Dillon 9mm dies will always produce a coke bottle shape. If that shape bothers you don't use Dillon dies or a U die.
 
bigedp51 said:
Below a wasp waisted case and its normal with carbide dies. And the lowest ring around your cases is where the expander stopped.
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You were 5 minutes too late with that add-on picture. Are you trying to steal my thunder? lol.
 
Talonstylz said:
Good thing I’m starting with a lee set then huh?
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I personally prefer Dillon dies but Lee dies are every bit as good. Depending on the press you may run out of threads with the Lee dies but that just means you'll need to put the locking ring on the underside of the tool head.
 
Talonstylz said:
Good thing I’m starting with a lee set then huh?
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If you use range pickup brass, thin cases like Winchester as they work harden will spring back more after sizing. Meaning you can have bullet set back from not enough bullet grip.

I have two Lee 9mm dies, a standard carbide die and the Lee undersized die carbide die. I bought 500 once fired military Winchester 9mm cases and needed the undersized die.

NOTE, most Dillon dies are small base dies or under size dies to make sure they chamber and for more bullet grip.
 
I used to get bottle shaped rounds from my Lee dies but with some adjustments to, they come out nice and straight.
As far as shooting those wonky rounds, I would be more worried about squibs than an overcharge. But I don't think I could trust them either.
 
Was at the range the other day, shooting some reloads by a site sponsor. First box of 50, no issue, first round of second box was a squib - my first ever to experience. Fortunately for me I followed proper checks to discover the lack of "Bang" with the round, found the bullet 1/3 the way down the barrel and cleared it thus avoiding the catastrophic failure that would come with firing another round without realizing or clearing the squib.
 
The case I got from this same vendor also has quite a few (50%+?) rounds where there appears to be a ring around the case that bulges out slightly. Haven't seen this on ammo from other commercial reloaders I've used in the past.

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This thread might better belong in "Ammo" rather than here in "Reloading" as it deals with commercially reloaded ammo that is retailed to the general public.
 
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