Looking for load data : 44 Magnum / 180gr XTP / H110

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I couldn't find any loading data for 180 grains bullets in my manual.

Caliber : .44 Rem Magnum
Primers : CCI Large Magnum Pistol
Powder : Hodgdon H-110
Bullet : Hornady 180 grains XTP

Does anyone have a recipe he would like to share. Those cartridge will be used in handguns only, no rifle.

Thanks alot.
 
This from Hodgdons:

180 GR. HDY XTP H110 Bullet dia .430" C.O.L. 1.600"
Starting 29.0gr 1714fps 21,800 CUP
Max 31.5 gr 1896 29,900 CUP
Hope this is what you were looking for
Cheers
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ps they were using Remington 2 1/2 primers thru a 8.275in bbl
 
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ricciardelli said:
For rifle:
H-110 From 18.8 grains to 31.5 grains
CCI-350 Primer

For handgun:
H-110 From 24.3 grains to 32.3 grains
CCI-350 Primer
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Well, I just have to ask. What do you make of this statement directly from Hodgdon's website?

H110 Loads should not be reduced more than 3%. Reduce H110 Loads 3% and work up from there. H110 if reduced too much will cause inconsistent ignition. In some cases it will lodge a bullet in the barrel, causing a hazardous situation (Barrel Obstruction). This may cause severe personal injury or death to users or bystanders.
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Thanks a bunch guys, this will help alot.

Flame and noise are exactly what I am looking for... to confront that other guy in my club that got himself a 500 S&W... except that it won't cost me 2$ per shot. I've loaded alot with H-110 and heavier bullets, such as 300 grains and 240 grains, but recently discovered those 180 grains, which are not covered in my loading book.
 
"Well, I just have to ask. What do you make of this statement directly from Hodgdon's website?"

The loads I listed have worked just fine for me in 5 different .44 Magnum handguns and 3 different .44 Magnum rifles.

As for a bullet being stuck in the barrel, or that unseen demon "detonation", I have never experienced either. Nor has anyone who has used my data.
 
ricciardelli said:
"Well, I just have to ask. What do you make of this statement directly from Hodgdon's website?"

The loads I listed have worked just fine for me in 5 different .44 Magnum handguns and 3 different .44 Magnum rifles.

As for a bullet being stuck in the barrel, or that unseen demon "detonation", I have never experienced either. Nor has anyone who has used my data.
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So, let me rephrase the question. What do you make of the manufacturer's disclaimer?
 
"So, let me rephrase the question. What do you make of the manufacturer's disclaimer?"

Let me put it this way...

My mother (who is German/Dutch) learned to make spaghetti sauce from my father's mother (who was Italian).

She changed the recipe a little.

I (Italian/German/Dutch) learned to make my spaghetti sauce from my mother.

I changed the recipe a little.

Now, all three of us made great spaghetti sauce. I prefer mine the most.

The same goes for any recipe for anything. It is a guide.

As for "warnings" ... speed limits are warnings ... "fasten your seatbelt" is a warning ... "don't smoke" is a warning ... "don't eat red meat" is a warning ..."don't stay up late" is a warning ... and "don't reduce loads" is a warning ...

Of all the above, the only one I always heed is the seatbelt warning.
 
I wouldn't go with more than max load on the Hodgon website which is 31.5gr IIRC
I used to load the 180 XTP bullets with H110 powder and they are quite a blast :) now I load 200gr copper plated to save money.


BTW I tried to down load the H110 at first and DO NOT RECOMMEND IT. I was getting a lot of unburned powder and the cylinder was getting very tight, even had the cases stuck in the cylinder a couple of times. (it stopped after I increases the load)
 
IM_Lugger said:
I wouldn't go with more than max load on the Hodgon website which is 31.5gr IIRC
I used to load the 180 XTP bullets with H110 powder and they are quite a blast :) now I load 200gr copper plated to save money.


BTW I tried to down load the H110 at first and DO NOT RECOMMEND IT. I was getting a lot of unburned powder and the cylinder was getting very tight, even had the cases stuck in the cylinder a couple of times. (it stopped after I increases the load)
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Thats because you didn't use Steve's data.......:p :p
 
I've tried those 180 grain bullets with H110. They're a hoot. You can feel the heat from the fireball and it's like a camera flash going off at the range. People will definitely take notice when you shoot those suckers. I love shooting my .44 Magnum Redhawk. It's big, loud and accurate. If only it were easier to clean.
 
Well, I've loaded, shot and tested : here are the results.

180 grains XTP behind 30.5 grains of H110, in Remington casings, with CCI 350 primer. 25 rounds fired, 6 chronied.

6 shots chronied, out of a 6" Barreled S&W 629
Max Velocity : 1615 FPS
Min Velocity : 1564 FPS
Average Velocity : 1584 FPS

Primers flattened but no flowing outside the primer pocket, no problem ejecting the fired casings. Inconsistent ignition of the powder : some shots felt and sounded weaker than others, and powder has been weighted by hand, so it's accurate. I'll try increasing the load by 0.5 grains on the next batch to see if it enhances the ignition.

However, I'm wondering why a load that develops less than 29900CUP of chamber pressure does flattens the primers like that. SAMII approved pressure is 36000CUP for 44 Mag.

What kind of 'equation' could be used to translate the FPS from a 8.275" barrel to a 6" barrel?
 
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Er, how could you claim some shots sounded/felt weaker when you have a 51fps velocity spread?:confused: That's a 3% variation........?

Also, how do you know what the exact pressure of the load you tested is? Is every component, including the same lot# of powder, the exact same as some published data?

Edit: OK, I re-read your original post, I assume it was the other 19 rounds that felt weak? I would suggest you go back and retest and chrono more of the same load, just to verifiy your findings.
 
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Joe-NWT,

You got it right, the 6 the were fired to the chrono all felt pretty much the same, but over 25 shot rounds, 3 felt very different, low muzzle flash on a load that usually generates ALOT of flash, different sound report, and different felt recoil (not weaker, but different), and a fair part of unburnt powder left in the barrel and chamber (I checked and cleared the gun after each 'different' shot, to make sure it wasn't a squib load)

As for the 29900CUP, if this is what you refer to, I took it from Hodgdon book, which states 29900CUP for max load (which is 31.5 grains) with the same bullet and same primer (I figure that a different casing wouldn't make a big difference). I tought that it was OK to assume that 1 grain under that given load would generate less pressure. Anyhow, even if the actual pressure is over or under this number, I would still be way below the maximum pressure for this caliber... this makes me wonder about the flat primers.

Thanks for your input, I'll prolly have to confirm the data with another run of testing.

To HPL : If you have problems getting rid of the carbon on the revolver's cylinder face, to go CT and get a can of NEVR-DULL, it's some kind of treated cotton and that's the best way I've found to clean the cylinder face back to mirror on my stainless 629.
 
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PoFF said:
To HPL : If you have problems getting rid of the carbon on the revolver's cylinder face, to go CT and get a can of NEVR-DULL, it's some kind of treated cotton and that's the best way I've found to clean the cylinder face back to mirror on my stainless 629.
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That's not the problem so much as having to clean each chamber in the cylinder and then the bore. I guess in the big picture it's about the same amount of bother as cleaning a semi-auto handgun.
 
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