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Necroman99

Necroman99

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Been playing skeet for a year and love it. Wanna buy my gun for the next 20yrs...opinions on this and it's price please.

USED-Beretta Model 686 E, 12 Gauge, 30" Barrel, 3" Chamber, with Adjustable Comb, Adjustable Recoil Pad, and Full Briley Sub Gauge Tube Set
Gun is in EXCELLENT condition.
Price: $4000

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How many rounds through it?

FYI, been using a 686 for just over a year, about 30K through it, not one issue. I can see it going 100K no problem.
Robust and well made piece of kit.
 
Beretta687EELL said:
Berettas are great guns and will stand up well. Have you shot this gun or other Berettas? Kolar is my choice, if you can afford one.
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I really can't. Even this is a real stretch for me. I figure a 686 alone should be about 2500 new give or take...but this is used. However, you then add the adj comb and pad, and the subgauge tubes...are they worth 2000 to 2500?
 
Fitted tubes are about $1800, plus whatever chokes he has for them if any.
If it's in a good case (Americase etc.) and he has the knockout hammer and all the knick-knacks it would be worth close to $4000.
I would work him a little bit as it is used.
That butt piece/recoil pad seems a little clumsy to me for skeet or sporting (mostly trap shooter fiddle with that crap) but to each his own!
 
That is why I said "if", stay within your budget. Beretta makes a quality gun that can and does shoot a lot and can be rebuilt and shoot a pile more. The main point I was making is that the main issue should be fit. Usually, people who shoot Beretta find Browning to feel clumsy and visa versa. So, if you find the Beretta to be comfortable and well fit to shoot, then it is worth considering.

As Necro indicated, (his prices are correct) there is value there. I would add that the adjustable recoil pad and comb cost around $200 US each and a used quality case is another $200 US. The comb and recoil pad aren't worth anything to you, if you don't need them.

Try it before you buy it.
 
Almost exactly the same gun that I have (mine is a 682 Gold trap combo 32/34) with the same accessories (adj buttpad, adj comb, tubes) and I have about $4000 into mine. To get a similar rig in Kolar or Perazzi you are $10k+.
 
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, I am the owner of that gun and had it on consignment at gagnon's but they have been told that it is no longer available for sale.

I'll be picking it up next week.

Sorry

gwagen
 
Yeah that's the one. If anything this just puts my mind at ease...I was sweating it a little...looked nice but it was at the high end of my price range. It's been sitting with gagnons for a while though and I've been drooling. I have follow up questions that I'll put in a pm to help me in future shopping if gwagen doesn't mind.

I guess this is what I get for hesitating...but it's funny that just as I'm working up my nerve it's gone...it seems its been listed on their sites for months.
 
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I know that gun. It has not been used much as the original owner bought a ... wait for it ... a Kolar (LOL). The adjust-ables were all done by the top professionals and there were lots of extras with the gun.
 
I know that gun is gone but there are a lot of them out there, and you asked for opinions so here are a few:

1. Berettas are good guns just like Brownings and a lot of others, but we can't tell you the most important thing (does it fit and feel right for how you want to shoot)

2. Sub gauge tubes are expensive (like the cost of a decent used 20ga shotgun). They make the case heavy and you can always add them later. Unless you shoot a lot of sub gauge (ie competitive shooting) really think before you buy a gun with tube sets just to carry them around.

3. And this one will probably get me some flame from the non-trap types: if you're buying one gun to shoot for 10 years buy a gun with a parallel comb. Imho the comb parallel to the bore axis is superior for consistency of poi regardless of where your face happens to hit the stock (which varies depending on how much you crawl the stock, or how thick a coat you have on).

Remember opinions are like armpits: most people have at least two and everybody else's stink, but that's what you asked for.
 
I appreciate all the opinions. My current favorites are a 682 gold e 32" w adjustable comb or a 686 xtrap I describe in another post...but I'm getting a lot of "that's a TRAP gun and you don't shoot trap" so...

Thanks again boys.
 
whatever gun you decide on an adjustable comb is a must. This way you get the gun to fit you not you fitting to the gun.
I would say that at least 90% of the guns you see on the skeet field will have an adjustable comb.
As far as a trap gun goes I know and have seen many very good shooters on the skeet circuit shooting trap guns (even tubed) in competition
 
The older trap guns, like the 682 gold and 682 gold e, aren't especially trap-specific. As long as you don't get into the hard-core trap guns with the inch+ tall rib there isn't a lot different.
 
adamg said:
The older trap guns, like the 682 gold and 682 gold e, aren't especially trap-specific. As long as you don't get into the hard-core trap guns with the inch+ tall rib there isn't a lot different.
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The trap gun I'm eyeballing has a pretty big rib...see my other thread called "thinking about this..."
 
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Beretta687EELL said:
I know that gun. It has not been used much as the original owner bought a ... wait for it ... a Kolar (LOL). The adjust-ables were all done by the top professionals and there were lots of extras with the gun.
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Insult to injury! LOL. I've been on an aggressive hunt since finding out this is no longer available. Looking at 3 different 682s, trap guns,skeet guns, sporting guns, on and on. Nothing measures up. Barrels too short, no adjustable comb...someone go tell gwagen to sell me his gun before I have an episode over here.:bangHead:
 
bmcrae said:
Have patience.... the right deal will come along.
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This... Really, a lot.

Most bad gun buys come as a result of a scarcity mentality. Scarcity is an illusion, there are oodles and oodles of them out there, just be patient. Remember you prefaced this by saying you're buying a gun to shoot for 20 years. Take the time to make sure you get what you want and you'll enjoy those 20 years a lot more.

Take it from someone who has bought the one gun I'll shoot for the next 20 years several times in the past 18 months!
 
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