Looking for recommendation for a dual use

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Hello,

Given the following scenario:

- you have only two rifles
- 1x modern sporter such as tavor in .223
- 1x bolt action such as tikka t3x in .308

any recommendations for an optic that satisfies the following criteria:

- Can be used on both rifles, but is better suited for use on the bolt action and for occasional use on .223 rifle for bench/target shooting
- Made in Europe, preferably made in Germany, OR made in USA
- Excellently suited for deer hunting in BC
- Has well designed reticle for rangefinding
- Good warranty

I know this is a unique set of criteria and circumstances, but am really curious to see what people would recommend. Also if this is impossible good to know as well. Thanks!
 
not the same mount will be harder but doable but bench/ target shooting and hunting is way different.

kahles offfered that kind of dual rifle idea or different bullets or bc with adaptable turret but it was coming from austria. still do not think it is a good option but that is just me.

what is the biotop you re hunting in bc?

what is your budget including the mounts?
 
No budget this is purely fictional and a curiosity experiment! I understand important concessions would be made, but I was just wondering if a reasonable option exists. Which Khales model did you have in mind?
 
- Can be used on both rifles, but is better suited for use on the bolt action and for occasional use on .223 rifle for bench/target shooting
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Tavor or similar semi auto 223 is not "bench/target" rifle. You probably mean "I will shoot it from a bench only?" You can't possibly have precision which would require "bench/target" type of scope

- Made in Europe, preferably made in Germany, OR made in USA
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If you want to go with EU made it will be expensive. Like a lot. If you are going with "well designed reticle for rangefinding" as a must and EU made, it will be very expensive (S&B, Minox, Khales tactical lines) EU made scope for hunting are not known for fancy reticles, even Leica and Swaro.

- Excellently suited for deer hunting in BC
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Which is what? Low weight first?

Well, what is your budget? You forgot the only really important factor )

If you think you can afford top EU scopes. Just buy Tangent Theta 3-15x50mm Long Range Hunter. It is amazing scope, amazing CANADIAN company. For $5k you are all set.

But somehow I doubt that. So make up your mind. Is it weight for mountain hunt. Or is it reticle, although I'm not sure how you expect range find deer with military reticles. Or is it country of origin. And how much are you going to pay for it.
 
The Minox THLR reticle is interesting for dual use but I think it may only be available on the 5-25x56. It would probably be way too much scope for both your applications.

The Minox zp5 3-15x50 with the MR2 reticle would probably meet your requirements. GBT had some demos recently at a very appealing price.
 
Nåjd said:
No budget this is purely fictional and a curiosity experiment! I understand important concessions would be made, but I was just wondering if a reasonable option exists. Which Khales model did you have in mind?
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Adjustable Multiple Zero ballistic turrets no more made.
 
budget is important like others have said. My vortex diamondback 4-16 is great. maybe go with a lesswer power like 3-9 or 4-12
 
Where in BC are you hunting deer??? Most of the Province is close bush with the odd cut block opening... Most of the deer I've seen taken are sub-150m. Obviously it opens up a bit in some areas.
 
Leopold is still made in America and offers a few reticles with hold overs. Not sure about range finding, wouldn't they need a built in range finding laser for that? Remember that hold overs are not exact for every caliber or load. Say you buy a leupold Freedom line setup with a reticle for 5.56 hold overs, and then put it on your 30/06 hunting rifle. They will not be the same, and you will have to do a little bit of work to figure out where to aim for that caliber.

https://www.leupold.com/shop/reticles
 
Ribstaylor said:
Leopold is still made in America and offers a few reticles with hold overs. Not sure about range finding, wouldn't they need a built in range finding laser for that? Remember that hold overs are not exact for every caliber or load. Say you buy a leupold Freedom line setup with a reticle for 5.56 hold overs, and then put it on your 30/06 hunting rifle. They will not be the same, and you will have to do a little bit of work to figure out where to aim for that caliber.

https://www.leupold.com/shop/reticles
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Asssembled in the USA with foreign (read chinese) parts. Hard pass.
 
Sassybee said:
Asssembled in the USA with foreign (read chinese) parts. Hard pass.
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There isn't a guarantee the glass is made in china. They source from Asia. This could mean China, Philippines, Korea, or Japan. It all depends on who can source at that time what's needed. And if you read their website everything else in the scope is manufactured in the United States.

Edit: If we add the requirement of getting away from Asian glass then a company like Meopta would be a decent choice. "Meopta is headquartered in the Czech Republic in Europe, but also has facilities in the United States as well. Most all their optical lenses (as in the glass used in their line of rifle scopes) is made in the Meopta facility in the Czech Republic."
 
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Nåjd said:
- Can be used on both rifles, but is better suited for use on the bolt action and for occasional use on .223 rifle for bench/target shooting
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You'll have to sight in your rifle every time you swap scopes between rifles.Rather than spending a pile of money on a top end scope that won't really be suited to either, buy two good quality scopes.
 
bearkilr said:
You'll have to sight in your rifle every time you swap scopes between rifles.Rather than spending a pile of money on a top end scope that won't really be suited to either, buy two good quality scopes.
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Will guys are doing this with unimount scope mounts, and as long as you are going back to the same place on the bases they are getting decent results. Set scope on one rifle, zero it in. Move to other rifle, dial in to zero, remember your dial moves. Shoot away. Move to 1st rifle, make the necessary dial adjustment. Go shooting. No problem with decent optics.

Khales, Zero Compromise, Shmidt and Bender, Thetta. Pick your reticle and spend your money.

Now, I would probably still buy two scopes, but it has been done with just one.
 
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