Looking for someone to shoot a scrap piece of armour plating with a 50 cal/338 lapua

It's a dangerous procedure to shoot a steel plate. At 25 yards parts of the bullet can turn around in the crater and come right back within inches of the bore. I would not do it at less than 100 yards.

Spray a little paint on the steel and you will see the hit.
 
It's a dangerous procedure to shoot a steel plate. At 25 yards parts of the bullet can turn around in the crater and come right back within inches of the bore. I would not do it at less than 100 yards.

Spray a little paint on the steel and you will see the hit.

Interesting story . . . it was interesting to me anyway. I was shooting at 12"X12X1" mild steel plates with my .416 Rigby loaded with 350 gr X bullets. The steel plates had a wide base welded to one edge, and typically stood on a railway tie or just on the ground ahead of the berm. I fired from 100 yards, and as seemed reasonable under the circumstances, the plate fell over in that slow motion roll a heavy plate is inclined to make when hit. The next thing that happened was that I heard a screaming sound followed by an audible thud. Midway between me and the fellow I was shooting with was my X bullet, turned inside out, the rifling marks were inside of what was now a copper thimble; it had completely inverted and rebounded back the full 100 yards to the firing line. Being the intelligent fellows we were, we played hot potato with this thing for a few minutes, laughing wildly each time we were forced to drop it, seemingly being unable to comprehend that the burning sensation we felt was the result of handling a very hot bullet.

For a while I swore off shooting steel with big rifles, until I purchased some 7/8" Hardox 500 plates and suspended them from chains so that upon impact the plate swings forward and the bullet drops to the dirt. Even these have dimpled over time, mostly near the edges from what I suspect was close range impacts from a .300 Ultramag. I had given up on mild steel when I learned that ricochets occur with 9 to 15 degree impact angles, and that its impossible to determine the impact angle of a bullet hitting a badly pockmarked steel plate. After the mild steel was abandoned, we experimented with various flat cutting edges, but again there is an impact angle problem near the mounting holes, and testing showed that these relatively thin blades shattered with just a few hits from typical hunting rifles. That led me to try Hardox 500, and next time I might try yet a higher grade of steel.
 
It's a dangerous procedure to shoot a steel plate. At 25 yards parts of the bullet can turn around in the crater and come right back within inches of the bore. I would not do it at less than 100 yards.

Spray a little paint on the steel and you will see the hit.

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Hit it with a hammer. The harder the grade, the more ringy it sounds.
Pretty crude test, but nice to know.
 
Any kind of penetration/expansion test should be conducted at least at 100 yards. Bullets exit the muzzle with a yaw and take awhile to settle down. A 25 or 50 yard test would give unreliable results.
 
If a .308 didnt leave a mark then a fifty ain't going to going to do much more. The only metal I know of that stops a .308 without a mark is AR500, and its heavy. Maybe you have a piece off a space shuttle or UFO. I would try a 50 watt plasma ray on it instead. Stop trolling, if u want to see or shoot a .50, just ask, don't beat around the bush about a piece of metal that doesnt exist.
 
Well if its hard and lighter the steal is there anyway its a piece of titanium? Not sure what plate titanium is used for or were you would find some thought just a thought. Also not sure if anyone will have shot titanium to tell you what it does when shot its very expensive.
 
Any kind of penetration/expansion test should be conducted at least at 100 yards. Bullets exit the muzzle with a yaw and take awhile to settle down. A 25 or 50 yard test would give unreliable results.

A while back, I read of a USArmy test for AP ammo.
They found that it actually penetrated more at 100Y than at 25Y
Seems impossible, but apparently they are going slightly sideways for a bit.
 
Well if its hard and lighter the steal is there anyway its a piece of titanium? Not sure what plate titanium is used for or were you would find some thought just a thought. Also not sure if anyone will have shot titanium to tell you what it does when shot its very expensive.

Tell me why we are humping around AR500 plates in plate carriers then if there is this magical lightweight bullet resistant metal.
 
I asked if there was anyway it was titanium. I know its stronger(more ridged) and lighter then steal does that mean it will take a hit better then AR500 im not sure like i said i have never shot it. Outwest1213 seems to know all the answers so maybe we should listen to him.
 
Well if its hard and lighter the steal is there anyway its a piece of titanium? Not sure what plate titanium is used for or were you would find some thought just a thought. Also not sure if anyone will have shot titanium to tell you what it does when shot its very expensive.

I shot a piece of titanium before.
It is strong for its weight, but it certainly was not bulletproof.
 
Tell me why we are humping around AR500 plates in plate carriers then if there is this magical lightweight bullet resistant metal.

Google this and think before you speak of Titanium like it's God's gift, because clearly, it is not.

"Safety-Related Problems in the Titanium Industry in the Last 50 Years"

Also in Afghanistan and Iraq, US soldiers have returned with bronchitis, associated with titanium dust. Once it's inside your lungs, you have it forever, and the little pieces constantly cut lung tissue when they move, and are 30 times thinner then a human hair.
Therefore if one had a titanium trauma plate, every time you experienced a bullet strike, the wearer could be ingesting carcinogenic metal dust.
In the only really practical use I see with it, is in aviation design where it's fire and heat resistant qualities are best realized in firewalls and tailpipes containing jet engine exhaust heat.

IIRC, the A-10 goes have a thick titanium shield for the pilot because this airframe could be subjected to heavy ground fire.
 
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Well if its hard and lighter the steal is there anyway its a piece of titanium? Not sure what plate titanium is used for or were you would find some thought just a thought. Also not sure if anyone will have shot titanium to tell you what it does when shot its very expensive.
Have you put a magnet to it. Titanium is not magnetic according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium Which is why they use it in the human body. Wouldn't want to undergo an MRI with steel in there. Another test is hook some jumper cables to a battery and test it's conducting properties.
 
Have you put a magnet to it. Titanium is not magnetic according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium Which is why they use it in the human body. Wouldn't want to undergo an MRI with steel in there. Another test is hook some jumper cables to a battery and test it's conducting properties.

Many/most metals are non-magnetic.

Wouldnt most metals be conductive as well?

A good test for Ti is a spark test. Touch a piece to a bench grinder. Ti will give brilliant silvery white sparks.
 
Yes if titanium it will be a bright white spark. Titanium is also extremely brittle so may crack if hit with several bullets. Worth a pretty penny as scrap though!
 
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