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Winchester M-1876 in 45-60.
Anybody here load for one of these old girls regularily??

Also need a lever hold up :confused: dedent ball & spring
Any parts guns around??

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The 40/65 has had a rebirth in that it is a favorite of the BPCR Silhouette shooters however, it is a very diff. cartridge then what is suitable for your '76. The orig. load of 260gr. is suited to your gun(with black powder)....the newer guns have a faster twist and use 400+gr. bullets for long range work. There are a few diff. case dimension oddities as some dies resize to wrong taper/size for diff. chambers! All brass can be made from 45/70 brass but Starline now makes 40/65 brass. Finding a 260gr. .408/.410 bullet may be difficult! There are at least 3 variations of case dim. including one from mouldmaker Ron Long!!
 
ben hunchak said:
All brass can be made from 45/70 brass but Starline now makes 40/65 brass. Finding a 260gr. .408/.410 bullet may be difficult! There are at least 3 variations of case dim. including one from mouldmaker Ron Long!!
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You know all the years I been playing with these old cartridges, makin A out of B :rolleyes: it never even dawned on me to look at the 45-70 case :rolleyes: I just assumed the 45-75 line of cases was it's own :rolleyes:
Thanks :)

As for bullets I'm now thinkin maybe....41 pistol bullets might just ....:dancingbanana:
 
Senior: If you are going to use Pistol bullets..use cast lead ones as they will be friendlier to your bore.....NEI makes a nice mould for the .408/.410 260gr.......incidentally did you know that UBERTI is making a repro of the '76.Yours is probably not made of nickle steel so I would stay away from jacketed bullets and smokeless powder. You should slug your bore before you start out!
 
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senior said:
Winchester M-1876 in 40-65.
Anybody here load for one of these old girls regularily??

Also need a lever hold up :confused: dedent ball & spring
Any parts guns around??

:)
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Senior, I am going to go out on a limb here and say the 40-65 was never developed for the 1876. The 40-65WCF was developed for the 1886.
The 4 calibers for the 1876 were the
45-75
45-60
40-60
50-95 Express
So 1 of 2 things, your are talking about the wrong rifle or the wrong caliber
Meanea
 
He's right, it never dawned on me, if its not a 40/65.....and is indeed a 45/60 or some such....disregard most of my earlier posts.....the 40-60 can be made from 45/70 brass as can the 45/60....the 45/75(centennial) cannot be....and one should use 348 Win. cases to reform!! If its 40 cal. you may still have to get yourself a mould for 260 gr. .408/.410..if its .45 cal. no problem as any cast bullet for the 45/70 will work.....dies for anything but 40/65 will be expensive! M.T. Chambers supplies 8 diff. bullets for .45 cal. rifles!
 
Meanea said:
Senior, I am going to go out on a limb here and say the 40-65 was never developed for the 1876. The 40-65WCF was developed for the 1886.
The 4 calibers for the 1876 were the
45-75
45-60
40-60
50-95 Express
So 1 of 2 things, your are talking about the wrong rifle or the wrong caliber
Meanea
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SUCKS TO GET old :mad:
Of course your right Meana, just went down to look :redface: the 76 is
of course a 45-60 :rolleyes: am also workin with an old guy to aquire his 40-65 in an 86 :) no wonder I'm getting confused:redface:
 
ben hunchak said:
Senior: If you are going to use Pistol bullets..use cast lead ones as they will be friendlier to your bore.....NEI makes a nice mould for the .408/.410 260gr.......incidentally did you know that UBERTI is making a repro of the '76.Yours is probably not made of nickle steel so I would stay away from jacketed bullets and smokeless powder. You should slug your bore before you start out!
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For the most part I hate cast bullets!
Most of the old girls have imperfect (shall we say:D ) bores that lead badly!
Have had good luck with jacketed in most of my old girls!
After all no 38-55s in 94s were ever marked "Nickel Steel" & they all shot thousands of jacketed bullets :)
Besides it's not like it'll ever get many rounds thru it.
Every try carrying a 76 win around :runaway:
 
Its to bad about your afflection with cast bullets...you must have had a bad experience when you were younger.....the 45-60 was made for lead bullets and i can think of no better choice than a historically accurate 340gr. Gould hollow point in your '76!
 
ben hunchak said:
Its to bad about your afflection with cast bullets...you must have had a bad experience when you were younger.....the 45-60 was made for lead bullets and i can think of no better choice than a historically accurate 340gr. Gould hollow point in your '76!
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Some people like pointed stick huntin too! I don't!
38-55s, 45-70s, 32-40s.... was also designed for cast they all shoot just fine with jackets! Don't get me wrong I do melt my ouw on occasion for my 45-70 & 50-70, but for all the shootin I'll do with most of them a few jackets a year work fine.

Meana: I'll work on a couple pics but on dial-up, hostin them is a pain in my time frame:cool:

Catinthehat" do you use 300gn SPs? black or smokeless? After trying smokeless in my old trapdoor 45-70, I'm thinkin the small cased 45-60 might work quite well with it!
 
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