Loyalist Blunderbuss?

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So my first foray into the blackpowder/flint world was something I always wanted but had absolutely no use for- a Blunderbuss.
Just the word makes me happy. So a while ago a tidy brass barreled CVA .69 cal came up on EE and I snatched it up. All I use it for is destroying things from 10 feet away and giggling like a little kid, and for that I shall make no apologies.
Now I've been eyeballing the Loyalist units, as they're .77 cal. More bigger better. I'm considering throwing up the CVA on EE and chasing one down.
Who's had experience with them?


If our dollar wasn't so terrible right now, I'd be tempted to go all in on one of these... More MORE bigger better.
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Aren't most loyalist guns made in India? From my personal experience if the gun doesn't come with the touchhole drilled its not certified to fire ammo of any kind.
 
They might, I would just clarify that before throwing any money down. Keep in mind that flintlock long guns aren't legally considered firearms so they are SUPER easy to import from the states
 
MikeD81 said:
They might, I would just clarify that before throwing any money down. Keep in mind that flintlock long guns aren't legally considered firearms so they are SUPER easy to import from the states
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Yes, but only for certain purposes of the Firearms Act. Unless it's an antique (pre-'98), then Restricted/Prohib classes still apply if it is a pistol or isn't longer than the minimum OAL. Only raising this because the photo in the OP's post could be restricted unless it meets the magic length (which it could - like the 8.5" NR 10/22s, shotguns etc).

As for Loyalist Arms, yes these are Indian made - BUT Loyalist has received a lot of good reviews here, do a CGN search for "Loyalist Arms" and you'll find a number of animated discussions on that topic. Make sure you don't confuse "opinions" with folks reporting actual first hand experiences.
 
MikeD81 said:
Aren't most loyalist guns made in India? From my personal experience if the gun doesn't come with the touchhole drilled its not certified to fire ammo of any kind.
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You sound like every American when it comes to India muskets. Never owned a Loyalist Arms but they are certainly made to shoot. In India they do not drill a touch hole or vent because owning or selling guns out of the country is illegal. This is how they get around it. Not all are of the same quality, but check on Loyalist Arms site for info on their muskets. The guns are perfectly safe if used as any musket should be. I once had a .58 cal. smoothbore from TOTW that performed very well. I believe they will drill the hole and even proof them. There are no BP proof houses in North America.
 
I own a Loyalist musket (Early British Sea Service .76 cal). It functions great, has a warranty, and the folks at Loyalist are some of the most friendly and helpful firearms dealers I've dealt with to date. No joke. They are about an hour from my home town and I had the opportunity to visit and chat when picking up my musket. The muskets are Indian AFAIK, however they are tuned and finished in house at Loyalist and guaranteed to spark well. For a Canadian customer who wants to live fire the touch hole WILL be drilled (by Loyalist), they will provide you instructions on proofing the barrel yourself as well as load data and maintenance tips.

I was originally interested in the Blunderbuss as well, but decided for something with a better range. I was able to handle one though, and must admit I felt like a badass when it was in my hands lol.

If I were you OP I'd contact them with any questions you have.

Here's some proof for the non-believers lol

 
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1300_stainless said:
I own a Loyalist musket (Early British Sea Service .76 cal). It functions great, has a warranty, and the folks at Loyalist are some of the most friendly and helpful firearms dealers I've dealt with to date. No joke. They are about an hour from my home town and I had the opportunity to visit and chat when picking up my musket. The muskets are Indian AFAIK, however they are tuned and finished in house at Loyalist and guaranteed to spark well. For a Canadian customer who wants to live fire the touch hole WILL be drilled (by Loyalist), they will provide you instructions on proofing the barrel yourself as well as load data and maintenance tips.

I was originally interested in the Blunderbuss as well, but decided for something with a better range. I was able to handle one though, and must admit I felt like a badass when it was in my hands lol.

If I were you OP I'd contact them with any questions you have.

Here's some proof for the non-believers lol

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What he said, I own that musket in his picture as well and also their French 1777. They work great, are well built with quality steel and they tune the locks and do the hardening. If something goes wrong, they are on warranty and after that, Blair will fix you up for a fair price anyway.

I have had nothing but good luck with them and they are great to deal with. My Sea service has been shot at least 500 times now and is still going strong.
 
I've heard good things about Loyalist, but no one has experiences with the thunder pipes specifically?
And I've got to ask, there is so much F@#k Yeah in these, why doesn't everybody have one?
Screw it. I'm going to list the CVA and pull the trigger (ha!) on one.







P.S. Drinking on a Tuesday night is fun!
 
Oddbawl said:
I've heard good things about Loyalist, but no one has experiences with the thunder pipes specifically?
And I've got to ask, there is so much F@#k Yeah in these, why doesn't everybody have one?
Screw it. I'm going to list the CVA and pull the trigger (ha!) on one.









P.S. Drinking on a Tuesday night is fun!
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I can assure you that their blunderbuss is fine and will work excellent. All of their guns do, buy with confidence.

I will get one someday, I just have more interest in guns that are multi purpose. I can get relatively good accuracy with a tightly patched round ball that weighs 600 grains or I can use buck or bird shot. That's why I have not got one yet.
 
I have a first land pattern 76 Cal Brown Bess musket from Loyalist. It sparks well and goes bang every time. I had the lock tuned by our local muzzle loading gun smithe. He also installed a white lightning touch hole liner. I made a rear sight for it out of a red devil spoon, it is held in place by the rear tang screw. I use the bayonet lug as the front sight. It shoots about as accurate as U could expect for a smooth bore, I would not want to be in front of it out to 75 yards. I use a 10thou patch around the ball and a wad between the powder and the ball. The musket came with the touch hole drilled. The stock is made from rosewood and is a very beautiful wood, if U like rosewood. The musket was not proofed, I had to do it. Loyalist Arms sent detailed instructions on how to undertake proofing. Proofing consisted of strapping the barrel down in a rubber tire, with a 175 GRAIN load of 2f and touching it off with a 10 second cannon fuse so U can get way back when she goes. There are measurements U take at the breach and in 5 places along the barrel with a vernier before and after firing. If they are more than plus or minus .005 (not too sure here) it does not pass. My normal holy black load is 100gr of 2f Goex. Mine passed with flying colors. Be aware however with my particular musket the steel in the lock and barrel is very soft compared to the locks and barrels U would get from Jim Chambers. Overall I am very satisfied with the musket and price point from Loyalist. Your millage may vary.
 
I have been eyeballing these. Glad to know these are quality. But, silly question here. What is the point of proofing the gun? Just so you know what it'll handle?
 
Test firing a gun before putting your face behind it is a good idea.

My concern with a brass barrelled blunderbuss such as this is how the barrel is made, and what the barrel is made from. If the blank is sand cast from assorted salvaged scrap, I might be concerned about shooting it.
 
tiriaq said:
Test firing a gun before putting your face behind it is a good idea.

My concern with a brass barrelled blunderbuss such as this is how the barrel is made, and what the barrel is made from. If the blank is sand cast from assorted salvaged scrap, I might be concerned about shooting it.
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The folks at Loyalist can answer that. I asked. I believe it's naval bronze, but could be mis-remembering. These guns aren't thrown together from whatever is laying around.
 
I had a french fusil de Chasse
Was an issue with bore dia
Not concentric
But it did Crack skeets and made me giggle
Shot a few birds with it, lock ignition was gd and little
Delay. Blair had sent me another barrel in place and still
Had an issue with bore dia being tapered
As I had to dbl patch to keep ball from falling out of patch
On way down bore, first 16" were gd
The next portion of barrel was somewhat looser and several times ball fell out of patch
I ended up using it as a shotgun rather than ball Gun
But blair was gd and his staff very friendly
 
We have the blunderbuss and an India pattern Bess. Both excellent quality pieces and no issues other than too much fun. Blair and Loyalist are a class act.
 
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