Lube grooves and load data

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hey guys, i have a question for ya. when it comes to making cast bullets and deciding on moulds. say for the 200 grain swc .45 acp they show two different styles. the one style is the standard two lube grove that i assume is to be used with a lubrisizer. the other has those micro lube grooves for using liquid alox or something of that nature. my question is this. if i buy the mould with the tumble lube grooves, would the same load data apply for both the standard lube grooves vs the tumble lube grooves ?
 
Theycallmejohnnycash said:
hey guys, i have a question for ya. when it comes to making cast bullets and deciding on moulds. say for the 200 grain swc .45 acp they show two different styles. the one style is the standard two lube grove that i assume is to be used with a lubrisizer. the other has those micro lube grooves for using liquid alox or something of that nature. my question is this. if i buy the mould with the tumble lube grooves, would the same load data apply for both the standard lube grooves vs the tumble lube grooves ?
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The standard two lube grove can be tumble lubed too, and the same data applies.
 
Stay away & avoid the LEE tumble-lube 200 grain bullet molds. With few exceptions, the TL or tumble lube bullet molds that LEE unfortunately still makes never live up to their advertisements.

Why LEE continues to catalogue these poor molds is overwhelmingly stupid. Instead of making new molds, they continue to catalogue these dog molds that never work. LEE claims these TL molds cast bullets that come out of the mold to size like .357 or .452. Not! Always cast UNDERSIZE, the LEE TL bullet molds make bullets that tumble, go sideways through the target, and ruin your score.

LEE makes great standard 6 cavity molds that work. Just NOT the TL molds. Of course LEE never admits or adresses this huge problem.....Not Performance.
 
hatman1793 said:
Stay away & avoid the LEE tumble-lube 200 grain bullet molds. With few exceptions, the TL or tumble lube bullet molds that LEE unfortunately still makes never live up to their advertisements.

Why LEE continues to catalogue these poor molds is overwhelmingly stupid. Instead of making new molds, they continue to catalogue these dog molds that never work. LEE claims these TL molds cast bullets that come out of the mold to size like .357 or .452. Not! Always cast UNDERSIZE, the LEE TL bullet molds make bullets that tumble, go sideways through the target, and ruin your score.

LEE makes great standard 6 cavity molds that work. Just NOT the TL molds. Of course LEE never admits or adresses this huge problem.....Not Performance.
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The Lee TL bullets work fairly well for powder coat but otherwise i haven't had much success with them because they're undersized.
 
LEE still makes the tumble-lube 9mm 124 TC bullet mold. #90402. Looks like a very nice 9mm tumble lube bullet that could work, only it doesn’t work.
Bought new last year the mold consistently casts undersize bullets. Powder coating didn’t improve it either. LEE claims that in order for this mold to work the lead must approach BIN18. Hilarious!

Why would I waste BIN18 lead on a one-time use for target when LEE’s other 9mm molds, #90457 a 125 RN, #90306 a 125 RF, or LEE’s #90387 a 120 TC, all BIN9-11 & powder coated work just fine, even driven supersonically?
 
I shoot IPSC with .40S&W 175gr TL semi-wad cutter bullets. They work just fine in my Beretta 96. They did tumble before I got the right technique for casting & loading them. Maybe you guys need to look at your casting/powder charge methods.
 
jethunter said:
Not just the TL molds - most of the LEE molds I've used were undersized. Not all but most.
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100% agree. I have yet have a lee mold drop a bullet that is the correct size. I have tried different recipes of lead from dead soft all the way to mostly lino, and from barely able to cast temperatures to completely frosted temps and none have ever been what the size has stated. Now that I mostly powder coat there are a few molds that I now use that had an inch of dust on them from non use that once powder coated I can shoot them.
 
Theycallmejohnnycash said:
hey guys, i have a question for ya. when it comes to making cast bullets and deciding on moulds. say for the 200 grain swc .45 acp they show two different styles. the one style is the standard two lube grove that i assume is to be used with a lubrisizer. the other has those micro lube grooves for using liquid alox or something of that nature. my question is this. if i buy the mould with the tumble lube grooves, would the same load data apply for both the standard lube grooves vs the tumble lube grooves ?
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yes.
 
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