Luger from Grandfather

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bmackay

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Hey guys,
My grandfather brought back a luger from the second world war. My aunt has had this thing since he passed about 15 years ago and wants to give it to me. Is the luger classified as a prohibited weapon and therefore will need to be deactivated? im just looking for some info on how to get this pistol shipped from NS to BC as unmolested and original as possible, it has never been registered but the firing pin has been broken so not sure if this changes its classification. Any help appreciated.
 
I am not an expert on prohibiteds by any means, but if it is a prohib and manufactured before 1946 (I think), as a direct relative you can get 12-7 status and legally own it...

The guys in the know should be here shortly...really, I'm just bumping this for you.
 
made a call today and was told that if the weapon has never been registered before,then my only options are to destoy it or deactivate. Can anyone confirm that this is true?
 
Try asking the CFO about the 12-7 license...it's a piece of your family's history, you should try to hang onto it in it's original condition...worst case scenario, I think you may be able to get a 104mm barrel installed by a gunsmith (I've read this on the board somewhere, not sure how true it is)./
 
bmackay said:
made a call today and was told that if the weapon has never been registered before,then my only options are to destoy it or deactivate. Can anyone confirm that this is true?
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No this is not true, it's just the policy to tell you that over the phone.
I have had the same conversation and when pressed, I was told the gun can be entered into the system and transferred to a 12.6 holder. Not sure about 12.7, but if the estate says it goes to you then it should. It can also be re-barreled to restricted.
 
Anybody have the number for BC CFO? cant seem to find it, im going to try to appeal this case in whatever way i can.
 
It has always been my understanding that a phrohibited handgun cannot be brought into the system unless previously registered with the RCMP K division,

The BC CFO is currently having its own set of problems, you might try the CSSA for a clarification as they are more up on the laws, I admire that you are willing to give it a fight which is good, we need more people to challenge ( not break the law) the rules respecting 12/6 handguns, this is the only way to legally gain ground respecting the phrohib regulations.

Keep us informed and bide your time.
 
Bad news

Please see following from Canada Firearms web page; it appears that the Luger cannot be legally transferred to anyone inits present configuration.

"Individuals do not need to be grandfathered to acquire a prohibited handgun if:

the handgun was made before 1946, and
the handgun is currently registered in Canada, and
they are the child, grandchild, brother, sister or spouse of the lawful owner.
Individuals who acquire a prohibited handgun in these circumstances will have 12(7) printed on their firearms licence. This means that they can lawfully possess a pre-1946 handgun passed on by a direct relative, but they are not authorized to acquire other prohibited handguns.

Any prohibited firearms that an individual acquires must have been registered in Canada on December 1, 1998. This means that even if a licence holder has grandfathered status, they cannot bring a prohibited firearm into Canada as a new import and they cannot acquire a prohibited firearm that has never been registered.
 
I wonder how many war trophy's like your grandfathers are floating around in this country which have never been registered. It would be a shame to lose that part of your grandfathers legacy you could just imagine how he obtained that gun.....

Either way your Granfather is another one of those Canadian heros that served.

I like doogs idea.
 
bmackay said:
made a call today and was told that if the weapon has never been registered before,then my only options are to destoy it or deactivate. Can anyone confirm that this is true?
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Might be true might not be. If you can find the Green card you can prove it was registered at 1 point. As long as you don't let your lience lapse then you can have prohib status. Its a catch 22 because he has passed away so its allot harder. If you can prove it was registered and that she was the exeutor of the state then it might be able to be done.
 
1GLOCKAHOLIC said:
I wonder how many war trophy's like your grandfathers are floating around in this country which have never been registered. It would be a shame to lose that part of your grandfathers legacy you could just imagine how he obtained that gun.....

Either way your Granfather is another one of those Canadian heros that served.

I like doogs idea.
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how many of the guns are floating around lots.

How many were registered then taken away from familys allot more. Some people registered them then didn't know the system changed to online ect so they have the old green cards if you have that they will add it to the system if you never let your lience laspe and already have the prohib status. It can be a pain in the rear.

The other option is take it to a gunsmith and have a longer barrel put on it if it's a 9mm then its not prohibit
 
Recce21 said:
Yup.

OP, you already screwed up.
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If i lived in Nova Scotia trust me it would be in my hands today.. problem is its on the other side of the country, and the aunt is not letting this thing leave her house without proper paperwork.

And no its never been registered, it literally just sat in a drawer and was forgotten about. I guess my only option is to maybe get the barrel swapped out.
Can anyone suggest any gun smiths in nova scotia?
 
bmackay said:
If i lived in Nova Scotia trust me it would be in my hands today.. problem is its on the other side of the country, and the aunt is not letting this thing leave her house without proper paperwork.

And no its never been registered, it literally just sat in a drawer and was forgotten about. I guess my only option is to maybe get the barrel swapped out.
Can anyone suggest any gun smiths in nova scotia?
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Does your aunt understand that she has been in possession of a unregistered prohibited firearm which she is not licensed to own or possess? I don't understand her reasoning of not letting you have it at this point. She can't take the Luger to a gunsmith anyways, only you could if you are properly licensed.

No offence but what the heck is she smoking?
 
Recce21 said:
Does your aunt understand that she has been in possession of a unregistered prohibited firearm which she is not licensed to own or possess? I don't understand her reasoning of not letting you have it at this point. She can't take the Luger to a gunsmith anyways, only you could if you are properly licensed.

No offence but what the heck is she smoking?
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This entire post is incorrect.

As executor she can.
 
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