Lyman Receiver Sights - Apertures.

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I have an old rifle with a lyman receiver sight on however I have no Aperture disk installed. I find it fine to use in the woods for fast target aquisition but for the range I would like to see what this rifle can do for consistency and load developement. What is the prefered aperture hole (im assuming a 5/8" disk) From .040 to .095 ?

im leaning to something in the middle but not sure.
 
I guess it depends somewhat on how old your eyes are...I drilled mine out to .125, and they've been working well.

I've never actually found that a smaller aperture helps me shoot any more accurately - what I did find was that I shoot better with a flat topped, relatively narrow front sight. It seems to 'find' center of the larger aperture as easily as it does with a smaller one. My personal method is to intend the bullet to land 'on top of' the front sight - a skinny 6 o'clock hold.

Up until a year ago or so, I was still doing MOA groups with my aperture sights. Vitreous separations in both eyes recently have kind of caused things to go haywire for me; I guess I'll see exactly how bad when the weather warms up a little.
 
My experience is about the same as Tumbleweed, I have used small apertures for precision target shooting but noticed little difference in actual results compared to larger apertures.
The front sight is important, and I agree with the flat top suggestion.
I have drilled most of the apertures I own to 0.125" and sometimes hunt with no aperture at all. You can try a smaller aperture like 0.06" and if you don't like it, drill it out to a larger size and drop it in some instant blue to get rid of the shine, it's not a complicated experiment.
 
You have brought up a good subject. For best sight picture under various conditions, different sized aperatures are required. Varrying light conditions so effect the sight picture and the size aperature required for best results. This is very apparent in match shooting.
Back in those glory days of shooting I am forever talking about, a prudent manufacturer came up with an ideal solution. A screw in iris that was easily and quickly adjustable to change the size of the aperature. The outer rim is of a rubbery material, easy on the eye brow, if it happens to get too close! This outer rim turns to adjust the size from the huge aperature shown, down to a pinpoint. The shooter gets into position, then adjusts it for the best sight picture under the prevailing conditions.
This little gadget is in Ellwood Epps catalogue. They may be out of them, though, as it is a 1962-63 catalogue I am looking at!
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Tumbleweed said:
I guess it depends somewhat on how old your eyes are...I drilled mine out to .125, and they've been working well.

I've never actually found that a smaller aperture helps me shoot any more accurately - what I did find was that I shoot better with a flat topped, relatively narrow front sight. It seems to 'find' center of the larger aperture as easily as it does with a smaller one. My personal method is to intend the bullet to land 'on top of' the front sight - a skinny 6 o'clock hold.

Up until a year ago or so, I was still doing MOA groups with my aperture sights. Vitreous separations in both eyes recently have kind of caused things to go haywire for me; I guess I'll see exactly how bad when the weather warms up a little.
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Yep, that has always been the best hold for me, too. Even with beads, it is still better than using the bead to cover the target.

Ted
 
I got a chance to play with it yesterday. Ive gotten things straightened out but still shooting 2" high at 25M which seems to translate to 5"+ high at 100 M . The heigh adjustement on the sight needs some TLC......that will be for next time.
 
This is great info on peep sites and where to find them.
Thanks gents.

Who said "old dogs can't teach pups new tricks"? ;)

Oh wait, is this how it goes?

Suns up and coffee is good.
Morn'in all...................:)
Looky.
 
For the longest time I had a good flat blade front sight and it did shoot the best groups out of my 94. Two years ago I was holding my buddy's BLR while he was tying a loose boot lace. There was less than 20 minutes of legal shooting time left and things were getting pretty dark. I figured he was finished since there was no way he would be able to pick up his front sight in the dark bush.

I took a look through the aperture and was really surprised. He had a "Firesight" installed and it was very visible. I thought they were a gimmick, but I was so impressed I put one on my 94.

My groups aren't as tight with this sight as they were with the flat topped front sight, but my load development was completed years before and this thing allows these old eyes to line up the sights almost to the end of legal shooting time.

I've only used it for a year or so. I don't know if they are significantly more fragile. They appear to be well made. Have any of you had any experience with these?

I managed to take somewhat blurry a picture through my Lyman ghost ring to show what it looks like. It's a little more dramatic when things are darker.

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kamlooky said:
This is great info on peep sites and where to find them.
Thanks gents.

Who said "old dogs can't teach pups new tricks"? ;)

Oh wait, is this how it goes?

Suns up and coffee is good.
Morn'in all...................:)
Looky.
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Mr. Kamloops, didn't you shoot my 69 at the range? I had the Merit on that.
I think you do remember the "improvised" method I used of getting the Lyman close enough to the eye.

I thought that old adage was, "You can lead a horse to drink, but you can't make him water."
 
Well now mr. powder guy.........
I know of your 69 and the peep.
Either one of us has a memory failing.
I shot a couple of rounds out of the Marlin 44mag with the
clear 3X scope on it.
The 69 I don't believe I did. I might of been frightful trying to
keep up to those darn groups of yours or if that wasn't it, I didn't
want your Winchester buddy developing any bad habits.....mine.
That line up of levers you posted a few days ago, did you remove the
scope on the one I shot?
I still think that one should wander this way for a spell.
Cheers.
The looky guy.
 
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