M-14 Bedding Fixture Kit

Tyler

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Is there a place that sells M14/M1A bedding fixture kits in Canada? Or does anyone here know the proper dimensions for me to make one?

From what I'm told, Brownells won't ship these to Canada:

brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=832
 
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Don't bother, save yer money. Yer #### won't fall off if you happen to glass bed without them. I've built ALL (yes, every single one) my match guns without these specialzed tools and they still podium. And yes, I do have the tools and I use them only for teaching purposes so that people won't have to rush out, buy them in order to prevent #### loss. :evil:

Save yer money! Buy practice ammo and come to my Service Rifle matches.

Peace be to journey,

Barney
 
A certain person told me my #### would fall off if I didn't bed without using a proper bedding kit.

Well... if I knew the proper dimensions for a bedding collar and the u-bar, I wouldn't have to buy one. Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge... ;)
 
Search for the excellent post on bedding made by one of the guys who did it at the edmonton clinic, he gives a great description.

Sosa
 
That was me. Heres the previous post:
lets talk bedding:

You'll need:

-Bedding compound. I used a kit called pro-bed 2000. I picked it up from a friend and it cost me nothing. The kit retails for $30.00 and could do dozens of rifles.

I've heard of guys using devon, marine tex, acraglas, and Hungry told me JB weld works too. Basically you need a good solid epoxy resin. JB weld is the cheapest by far and the two tubes you get in the kit will be way more than enough.

-Release compound. The kit I had came with it. Judging by the smell and consistancy I'd be willing to bet it was turtle wax in the kit. I've heard of car wax being used before. It worked for me. Hungry uses a few coats of pam. I haven't tried it but if it'll keep food from sticking it should keep your rifle unstuck too.

-Masking tape. It keeps the bedding compound from sticking where it's not supposed to be.

-A sharp knife. Any sharp knife should do. I used my pocket knife at the clinic.

-A dremel tool and a good ball nosed bit. You'll used this to open up your stock so the bedding compound will stick to it well. If you don't have a dremel I'm sure a drill and a bit will work just as well.

-You'll also need some mixing cups (hungry was nice enough to lend me a cough syrup cup), mixing sticks (popsicle sticks), some acetone (nail polish remover), and some paper towels.


Lets get started!

First, make sure your rifle isn't loaded.

Second, with the rifle fully assembled you'll want to take the sharp knife and scribe the outline of your receiver into the wood. trace around the edges of the receiver up top and the trigger guard below. On the trigger gaurd you only need to trae the raised portion at the front and not the recessed portions.

Now dissassemble the rifle and place the action and trigger gaurd to the side. You'll only need the stock for the next few steps.

It's best to put the stok in a vie or, like I did at the clinic, a workmate, (whoever brought that to the clinic, many thanks). You'll need the stock in a steady rest so both hands are free. Don't forget to put a few rags or something between the stock and the vise so it doesn't get scratched up.

If you look at the scribe marks from the reciever you'll see that now you have a pattern for the channels you are going to put into the stock for the bedding compound. If you look at the back of the action's scribe mark you'll see a horseshoe shape. You'll want to start here. Drill holes about an 1/8'' deep into the wood in the horseshoe pattern and about an inch up the straight edges ahead of it. Make sure you stay within the lines you've scribed and the edge of the inleting. Otherwise it doesn't have to be pretty. Connet the holes to make a channel.

Next you want to do the left front side of the receiver scribe. By left front I mean if you were holding the stock as you would if you were shooting the left side of the rifle and in between the groove for the bolt catch and where the reciever tapers inwards toward the stock inlet. Make a channel here the same way you did the rear of the stock. Again you awnt to stay in the lines and watch out for the taper at the front of the reciever. I got a little carried away with mine and you can just barely see the end of my channel with my receiver in.

Next is the right side. You'll want to make another channel on that straight piece where the op rod rides.

Now you want to flip the stock over and make channels on the two rectangular areas you scribed near the front of the guard.

Also channel out the two areas near the back of the guard. These areas are recessed in and you didn't sribe them. There is a deeper groove in between them.

Now you are done with chopping up your stock. Now you need to mask it.

Basically you'll want to put masking tape down around the edges of where you have scribed and around the trigger gaurd inlet to keep the bedding compound from making a mess of your stock.

Also take a piece of rolled up masking tape and place it in that recession at the back of the trigger gaurd inlet. If you look on the trigger gaurd you'll see that the sear sits in that area. If bedding compound gets in there it can mess with how the gun fires.

Now I would take a break if I were you. Go relax and have a coffee, pop, beer, or something. The next part has to be done in one sitting.

Before bedding you'll need to put some release compound on the metal parts of your gun to keep them from getting glued in. If you are using wax apply it on thick and then let dry and buff off. Make sure you get everywhere you think that bedding compound may go. Put at least four coats on to be sure you've got good coverage.

If you are using pam I'll let hungry tell you how to do it since I haven't tried it.

Now it's time to mix up the compound. Most compounds are a 1 to 1 mix but be sure to read the mixing directions to be sure. You'll need a blob about the size as tip of your pinky.

I've used jb weld, devcon, and probed before for projects and I know the working time with it is around an hour after mixing. This means you have a lot of time to appy it so don't rush.

You'll want to put a layer about an 1/8'' or so on the reciever and trigger group parts in the same spots that your channels are in the stock. If you get the compound on pieces not to be bedded be sure to wipe it off right away with an acetone soaked paper towel.

Once you have your compound applied you can insert the receiver into the top of the stock. Put your trigger group in to the stock but do not latch it into place. You want to turn the trigger guard enough to apply a little pressure on the action and stock but not full pressure. Use a roll pin between the guard and the hole in the safety to hold it in place.

Wipe the squeezed out compound away with acetone and a towel.

Set the assembly aside for at least a day. It will take 24-36 hours for the compound to cure. You'll know the compound is full cured when the leftovers are hard as a rock and have no flex to them. Thin pieces of the compound, like what will be left in the mixing cup will shatter rather than flex when pressure is put on it.

Once fully cured you can now remove the trigger group and action from the stock. Do not be alarmed if the action will not come out. This more than likely because the stock fits the action tightly and not because you glued the action in... well hopefully.... I had to brace the stock and use a dowel and mallet to get my action out.

After that it's all clean up. Carefully peel the tape off, I used an exacto knife to cut a nice edge to the bedding and help get the tape away. I also cleaned up the little blobs of compound that leaked out on the inside.

Make sure your rifle is clean and well lubed and re assemble. My gun is nice and tight and is a ##### to get out of the stock now so I made sure it's cleaned well so I won't have to disassemble until it's time to bed again.

Lastly go shoot the thing. Then come back and post so we can all hear how it went for you. Perhaps you can add to this or, even better, post a better how to because I suck at explaining things.

If the guys that took pics and vid while I was working on my stock could post some stuff here it would sure help. I didn't think to bring a camera and I have no pics.

P.S. My C key on my keyboard doesn't work all the time. I tried to edit the best I can but I'm sure I missed a bunch.

It's pretty simple to do with just a dremel tool, some tape, and some bedding compound.
 
Well, I have a pictoral guide, and I've done all my inletting and drilling. I just need to pick up some Devcon, get the dimensions for the bedding collar and U-bar, and I'm off to the races. I just want to make sure I get the right amount of pressure on the front of the stock where it meets the front ferrule.

I did a bedding job before, and I wound up with *less* pressure than I did before.... seemed counter productive.

http://imageseek.com/m1a/M1A_Bedding/

Thanks for the info so far, guys.
 
Tyler: PM me and I'll be happy to mail the bedding centering tool to you in N. Ontario. The U clip ? Just use a fence staple, TSC Farm stores sell these, but they might laugh at you when you say that all you need is ONE of them.

Wobbles99, remember what we used ? We placed your trigger group into the receiver and began the clamping process. BUT we stopped just when the trigger guard hooks engaged the receiver mortises and then placed you safety into the REAR or locked position and then used a small nail (Hungry Welfare method here.... :D ) to lock the trigger guard to the safety (nail through the hole and then preventing the trigger guard from springing open).

Tyler: Have you watched the Abbotsford 2004 M14 Clinic that's available for download? On that video, you will see me bedding two M1A's that afternoon. You just have to screen out all the chop saw noise in the background while Skullboy and crew are quickly removing (by chop saw, of course) the welded flash suppressors. Ha ha ha ha LOL :evil:

Hope this helps,

Barney
 
Hungry, you da man... PM in-bound. I'll review my clinic dvd tonight after work.

I need to take off my flash supressor and replace it as well, as it's off centre. Any more off centre and it's going to be nicking bullets as they come out... :eek:

Question: When I get my barrel indexed in the future, will I have to re-bed the stock?
 
Re-bed the stock after barrel indexing, NOPE ! Don't you worry. That's not needed. If you are ever down in the Barrie area, come on over to Collingwood, I would like to see this tweaked flash suppressor to see if it needs any more attention.

Cheers,
Barney
 
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