M1 Carbine question

Tikkaboy

Tikkaboy

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Is the only difference between the Res./Non-rest. version the length of the barrel? And is the action of the M1 what would make it restricted? I ask because the gun store employee told me he thinks the M1 is restricted because of the receiver like the AR is. I don't think so and I checked the Gov. list couldn't see it there.
 
Barrel - Semi auto, are the only factors that make the, restricted or not. The reciever has nothing to do with it.
 
Probably got confused with the M2, which was the Full-Auto version with a selector slot machined into the action. That version is prohibited.
 
Tikkaboy said:
Is the only difference between the Res./Non-rest. version the length of the barrel? And is the action of the M1 what would make it restricted? I ask because the gun store employee told me he thinks the M1 is restricted because of the receiver like the AR is. I don't think so and I checked the Gov. list couldn't see it there.
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There are all kinds of converted auto category M1/M2 carbines around. Combine that with all the variations of USGI barrels, barrels with pinned and/or welded extensions, aftermarket barrels, and rebarrelled carbines, and there's no wonder that people - including verifiers - have found it to be confusing.
 
JP said:
Probably got confused with the M2, which was the Full-Auto version with a selector slot machined into the action. That version is prohibited.
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actually JP

the m1 and m2 recievers are IDENTICAL the only difference is the markings and the early m2's were handstamped "2" OVER the "1"

the us army wanted a kit that could convert any m1 to select fire (cheaper that way)
 
I have not seen an M2/M3 in quite a while, I seemed to remember it had a slot machined into the receiver for the selector switch I guess my memory failed me.
 
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I have not seen an M1/M3 in quite a while, I seemed to remember it had a slot mahined into the receiver for the selector switch I guess my memory failed me.
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I thought this was the case as well

could there be two versions?

semi automatic? I thought barrel length was what made it restricted .........i guess my svt and m14 are restricted as well :rolleyes:
 
Semi-auto AND barrel length. Your SVT-40 is fine until the semi-ban comes into effect. Too many gang killings with young punks pretending Toronto is Stalingrad.
 
Here is a question - did the SVT and AVT use the same receiver?
The selective fire FN 49 uses the same receiver as the semi, as far as I know.
Last supplier of non-restricted length M-1 barrels here was Trade Ex. Wonder if they are going to get another batch?
 
tiriaq said:
Here is a question - did the SVT and AVT use the same receiver?
The selective fire FN 49 uses the same receiver as the semi, as far as I know.
Last supplier of non-restricted length M-1 barrels here was Trade Ex. Wonder if they are going to get another batch?
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I actually started a thread on this not too long ago .........i believe the answer was no ..........don't hold me to that ........i have a good memory but a short one :D
 
shortandlong said:
I was being sarcastic............semi auto ban ? don't tell me you given up arlready
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Yeah they're going to ban semi-auto but legalize full-auto. The main reason is that semi-auto sounds much scarier than full-auto because it has more syllables and is used on CSI when they really mean to say full-auto.

When I told my wife one of my rifles was a semi-automatic she said "What? You're not legally allowed to own that!!"

Seriously, much scarier.
 
to original question - barrel length is what makes is restricted. Now, if you are thinking rebarreling - think again. Unless you are machinist yourself custom job will cost way too much that is if any smith would take this job. Reason being the complexity of M1 carbine barrel - it is square at the root portion and there is gas piston housing that is also bart or barrel. A lot of milling and this is not a pot steel. Cheaper way of non-restricting is sleeving barrel with longer insert. Original barrel is 18" so there will be 1/2" of unsupported sleeve sticking out, not a big deal.
 
Here are a couple of pics

m2_selector.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/bobcrisman/m2_selector.jpg

1035_1.jpg

http://www.dallasguns.com/media/1035_1.jpg
 
"...thinking rebarreling - think again..." Rebarreling isn't the same as making a barrel. Making one would certainly be a nightmare though. rebarreling is just that. Changing the barrel. The trick is finding a non-restricted barrel. Iver Johnson made some 19" barrels in 1978 or '79. They're few and far between though.
A sleeve will make the barrel ID too small. Extensions attached to the barrel don't count any more.
 
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