dont know a lot about these rifles but they sure seem to be a hot comidity these days.Just wondering what particular arsanal would be best to buy or is there any diference as most that i see on the EE seem to be a miss match of parts.How is a grand made by springfield in comparsion to other makeres. Are war time grands more collectible than post war ones and what stock cartouches would they have on them if any .Any info would be appreciated ,thanks in advance
m1 grand
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Pretty much all U.S made Garand have been rebuilt during their life. So having the correct arsenal parts is not guarranty. There's also italian made garand in the 50's by breda and beretta,they are very well made, i have a beretta garand myself. Italian made garand have served the danish army, and some danish garand have their barrel replaced,marked VAR and are considered match grade barrel. This is only partial informations, i,m sure more fellows nutz will came in to give more precisions.
Jocelyn
Jocelyn
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Hi,
During the beginning of WWII the M1 Garand was originally manufactured by Springfield Armory. As the war went on, (I think in 1943 -- I might be wrong) Winchester was also given a contract to produce the rifle. After the war, Garands were also made by International Harvester Corp. and Harrington & Richardson in the United States and as Jocelyn mentioned by Breda and Bretta in Italy. We could probably have a thread dedicated to the debated over which manufacturer is the best ect.. but all you have to know is that they're all very good quality and that the parts are all interchangeable. That being said, if you'd like to purchase a Garand for your collection the wartime SA and Winchester models are the most desirable but they're very difficult to find. Due to their lenghty years in service, it's unlikely that you'll find a complete wartime Garand kicking around. Most of them have been through at least one or two arsenal programs in their day. When this happened, original parts were swapped out and new ones were put in. For example, most post war arsenal rebuilt Garands will have been rebarreled, they may have had the lock bar sights removed, they may have wide front sights/gas cylinders added (opposed to the narrow wartime version), the stocks might be replaced ect...the list goes on. So it isn't really a big deal if your Garand has all matching parts or not unless you're a WWII collector. From what I've seen of the market these days, Garands in decent shape go from between $800 to $1200.00 BUT if they're all matching SA or Winchester models they go for quite a bit more. I hope this helps, I'm sure some of our more knowledgeable members (like Purple and Pocketfisherman) will be able to give you much more info than I can because those two guys are Garand gurus
Here's a helpful link for the cartouches
http://www.trfindley.com/pgsnstmpsm1.html
During the beginning of WWII the M1 Garand was originally manufactured by Springfield Armory. As the war went on, (I think in 1943 -- I might be wrong) Winchester was also given a contract to produce the rifle. After the war, Garands were also made by International Harvester Corp. and Harrington & Richardson in the United States and as Jocelyn mentioned by Breda and Bretta in Italy. We could probably have a thread dedicated to the debated over which manufacturer is the best ect.. but all you have to know is that they're all very good quality and that the parts are all interchangeable. That being said, if you'd like to purchase a Garand for your collection the wartime SA and Winchester models are the most desirable but they're very difficult to find. Due to their lenghty years in service, it's unlikely that you'll find a complete wartime Garand kicking around. Most of them have been through at least one or two arsenal programs in their day. When this happened, original parts were swapped out and new ones were put in. For example, most post war arsenal rebuilt Garands will have been rebarreled, they may have had the lock bar sights removed, they may have wide front sights/gas cylinders added (opposed to the narrow wartime version), the stocks might be replaced ect...the list goes on. So it isn't really a big deal if your Garand has all matching parts or not unless you're a WWII collector. From what I've seen of the market these days, Garands in decent shape go from between $800 to $1200.00 BUT if they're all matching SA or Winchester models they go for quite a bit more. I hope this helps, I'm sure some of our more knowledgeable members (like Purple and Pocketfisherman) will be able to give you much more info than I can because those two guys are Garand gurus
Here's a helpful link for the cartouches
http://www.trfindley.com/pgsnstmpsm1.html
If you want to learn more about the Garand especially if you plan to collect them I suggest getting Scott Duff's book The M1 Garand in World War 2.
There's also some good info on the web especially at Milsurps.com. Also pocketfisherman is your friend as he rebuilds Garands.
There's also some good info on the web especially at Milsurps.com. Also pocketfisherman is your friend as he rebuilds Garands.
