M14 type rifle questions...
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Bedded stocks will loose their beneficial qualities is you disassemble them a lot. The bedding is an interference fit and virtually every M14 gunsmith will tell you to absolutely minimize how often you take the stock off.
For non-bedded rifles, no, they don;t have the issue you refer to. It IS more common on M1 garand stocks though. Garand stocks have no metal liner like the M14 does.
For non-bedded rifles, no, they don;t have the issue you refer to. It IS more common on M1 garand stocks though. Garand stocks have no metal liner like the M14 does.
Every M14 ends up being a little different. The only ones I hated was my buddies Norinco when it was still in the plastic stock...just "felt" hollow. Wood or fiberglass stocks make a big difference in the feel, and then you can get into chassis like the Blackfeather or EBR.
On the note of stock liners though, I noticed they're not used in the fat McMillan stocks, as I guess they're unnecessary with the rigidity of the stock.
No liner on USGI fibreglass as far as I know
I seen some mention on an M14 Forum about the liner being intended to reinforce the G.I. wood stock against the stresses of firing rifle grenades.
Anyway are G.I. fiberglass stocks readily available in Canada?
I prefer the look and feel of wood but it's maybe not the best thing to be running around the rainforest with.
Anyway are G.I. fiberglass stocks readily available in Canada?
I prefer the look and feel of wood but it's maybe not the best thing to be running around the rainforest with.
No longer readily available, but they pop up on the EE sometimes. Expect ot pay around $200 these days.
It's a 'rock and lock' style mag, which is traditionally very solid and not prone to moving around much, depending on the fit and finish of the magazines in question. I find the M-14 style to be very rigid in my experience. To be honest, I can't remember a single FTE or other sort of stoppage with my Norinco in the 10+ years I've owned it.
As you said, being in BC, synthetic may be the way to go. You can spend the cash on a USGI stock and have to fill the selector cuts, or you can keep the 'stock' stock and do some mods to it. I'm personally a fan of using the 870/AR15 stock adapter. Looks very good with the shorter barrel, and there's a thread on it in here, floating around somewhere.
Any rifle that jams if the mag is used as a monopod is a POS.
The Chinese synthetic stock, while ugly as sin and sharp as a knife in some places til you knock the edges down, is actually a surprisingly good stock. Some of my 14s have outshot both the USGI fiberglass and wood stocks in them (to be fair the liner/stock fit is a crapshoot with GI wood, same with the GI fiberglass. It fits how it fits and plenty of them are slightly warped) but still...its lighter than the USGI fiberglass as well. Unless you *really* like the look of USGI stuff I wouldn't care if it had the fiberglass or Chinese stock.
For what its worth, I do believe that the stock compresses if it is stored long term if the trigger guard is latched. So I unlatch it. Could be wrong but it costs nothing to address.
The Chinese synthetic stock, while ugly as sin and sharp as a knife in some places til you knock the edges down, is actually a surprisingly good stock. Some of my 14s have outshot both the USGI fiberglass and wood stocks in them (to be fair the liner/stock fit is a crapshoot with GI wood, same with the GI fiberglass. It fits how it fits and plenty of them are slightly warped) but still...its lighter than the USGI fiberglass as well. Unless you *really* like the look of USGI stuff I wouldn't care if it had the fiberglass or Chinese stock.
For what its worth, I do believe that the stock compresses if it is stored long term if the trigger guard is latched. So I unlatch it. Could be wrong but it costs nothing to address.
If properly bedded to NM spec, this won't matter as there is solid incompressible epoxy from trigger group pads to receiver. Same for fibreglass stocks.
I've not seen a gi stock compress to unusability, but I have seen some stocks lock up with less force over time.
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