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Hey all, I've been the proud and lucky owner of an M1941 Johnson rifle for a few years now, and just wondering how truly rare they are here in Canada.
Mine is in original 30-06, low serial number and original stock.
I'd post some pictures if I could figure out how.
 
Not sure about exact rarity but I know they are quite rare. Great north gun co sold one for $5000 not too long ago
 
Century Arms brought in lots of them from, I think Indonesia. The condition was all over the map $49.95 ea
Garand was $99.95 in much better condition than any of the 1941's
 
Search CGN, there are several posts here.

You may want to join this forum as there are records of the serial numbers, serial numbers on all the parts for each rifle , date made and shipped available by one member.

Remember, no Johnson has all matching numbers, if it does someone restamped it and it is a fake.

http://johnsonautomatics.com/messageboard/index.php

You might want to get Bruce N. Canfields Book - Johnson Rifle and Machine Guns.

Compared to a Garand they are rare, they say only 20,000 (or less) Johnson Rifles were made. How many Garands were made? Quite a few more!
And to put that into perspective, there were 400,000 G/K-43 German WW2 rifles made and those are hard to come by.

Enjoy your rifle!
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Search CGN, there are several posts here.

You may want to join this forum as there are records of the serial numbers, serial numbers on all the parts for each rifle , date made and shipped available by one member.

Remember, no Johnson has all matching numbers, if it does someone restamped it and it is a fake.

http://johnsonautomatics.com/messageboard/index.php

You might want to get Bruce N. Canfields Book - Johnson Rifle and Machine Guns.

Compared to a Garand they are rare, they say only 20,000 (or less) Johnson Rifles were made. How many Garands were made? Quite a few more!
And to put that into perspective, there were 400,000 G/K-43 German WW2 rifles made and those are hard to come by.

Enjoy your rifle!
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Thanks.
I know that mine certainly doesn't have all of its numbers matching.
 
BrentyT said:
Thanks.
I know that mine certainly doesn't have all of its numbers matching.
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IIRC, all of the stamped serial numbers on the parts of a Johnson are all different, but they logged this in a book when they built each one. Some records were lost for a certain serial number block.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
IIRC, all of the stamped serial numbers on the parts of a Johnson are all different, but they logged this in a book when they built each one. Some records were lost for a certain serial number block.
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Mine has no letter prefix for the serial number and the number is below 3000
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Search CGN, there are several posts here.

You may want to join this forum as there are records of the serial numbers, serial numbers on all the parts for each rifle , date made and shipped available by one member.

Remember, no Johnson has all matching numbers, if it does someone restamped it and it is a fake.

http://johnsonautomatics.com/messageboard/index.php

You might want to get Bruce N. Canfields Book - Johnson Rifle and Machine Guns.

Compared to a Garand they are rare, they say only 20,000 (or less) Johnson Rifles were made. How many Garands were made? Quite a few more!
And to put that into perspective, there were 400,000 G/K-43 German WW2 rifles made and those are hard to come by.

Enjoy your rifle!
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I've tried to join that forum but it does not let me sign up, keep getting a "did not pass security check" error when I try to set up an account
 
BrentyT said:
I've tried to join that forum but it does not let me sign up, keep getting a "did not pass security check" error when I try to set up an account
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Lol is there something...you are forgetting to tell us....Trudeau hater?�� double dipper...back wash..in your Pepsi...kinda guy...lol ,just joking.
I would love to own one, but my $300.00 limit, won’t cover the cost of the stock...little lone the rifle...
 
Ganderite said:
I recall them being sold for around $100 at the same time a nice LongBranch was $15.
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As a kid in the mid-50's I distinctly remember them sitting in barrels in a Niagara Falls NY war surplus store for $20 each. I clearly recall them because of the weird looking pot belly mag which was so different from all the other rifles there.
 
I’m also the lucky owner of one of those rifles. I’m in Nova Scotia and I personally know of at least 3 of them in the province, but they are definitely rare. I don’t know if you have shot it yet, but if not I would advise you to check the recoil spring in the stock. It should be 12 inches, if it is not it will hammer the bolt stop over time and warp the receiver. If yours is not up to length PM me and I can help you find another one as I went through that a few months ago. I’ve put a few rounds through mine and taken it fully apart so let me know if you ever have any trouble with yours.

As for overall rarity, they only made 23 000 of them, around 15 000 of which were surplussed in Canada and the US. My understanding is some of those were bought up for the Bay of Pigs invasion, as the US surplussed theirs in the 40’s and some of them had scopes similar to sporters made by Winfield arms.
 
BrentyT said:
I've tried to join that forum but it does not let me sign up, keep getting a "did not pass security check" error when I try to set up an account
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Same thing happens to me as well,tried to email them to find out what the problem could be,but even that results in saying I did not pass security check.When reading the posts on their forum you can see on top that their website it not secure.
However,I love the rifle,mine actually has two barrels,one in 30-06 the second one in 7.62x51.
Melvin Johnson was a genius in my opinion,being able to design such an innovative semi without the complication of a gas system and in such a sort period. Also one that the shooter never has to stop to reload,just keep shooting and shove more cartridges in the magazine,brilliant.
If it had appeared 10 years earlier I'm sure it would have been chosen the standard US infantry rifle but dirty politics got in the way,but hey,at least we can thank the Dutch for putting in orders for about 20 or thirty thousand,else it may never have been built.
 
Have you guys tried just using google and searching johnsonautomatics.com ? I still belong to the site but cant find my password or remember the e-mail I used. I logged into the site last night and this morning and can sign up again easily if I want to. I also had a 1941 but sold it a few years back to a fellow member in here. Mine had a serial # below 1000 and have the info when it was made,part numbers etc. Don't forget the 41 was also made in 7mm for the chilean gov. They ordered 1000 of them in 1943.
 
Tried again this morning just using Google,same result,no idea what the problem is.
Yes,Chili ordered 1000 in 7x57 but Johnson had to have the barrels made in Mexico since JAMCO did not have barrel making machines for that caliber,I wonder what happened to the Chilean ones,never seen one advertised.
 
M1-Garand said:
Tried again this morning just using Google,same result,no idea what the problem is.
Yes,Chili ordered 1000 in 7x57 but Johnson had to have the barrels made in Mexico since JAMCO did not have barrel making machines for that caliber,I wonder what happened to the Chilean ones,never seen one advertised.
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Can you go into your security settings on your web browser and try making a exemption? Is your antivirus blocking it as a unsecure site?
 
Coyote Ugly said:
I signed in with no problem today on the Johnson Forum.
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I visit the Johnson forum frequently to read the posts,no problem there,but when I tried to join as a new member I do not pass their security test for some reason,leaves me stumped since I'm a member of the k98k forum that is also not secure according to Google.
 
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