M96 Questions

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I am pretty much sold on getting a Trade Ex m96 for a deer rifle, but I had a few questions I was hoping someone would be kind enough to answer. Are there weaver style bases that would fit the typical diopter sight holes? Sorry to scope it; maybe for my next one I'll get it as close to as issued as possible - this one is a meat getter.

As this is a hunting rifle I am not concerned with value beyond utility. Keeping that in mind - are there any years or periods of time a guy should be hesitant to buy due to accuracy or quality issues?

Finally - are the ones that don't mention a Carl Gustafs receiver just not as collectable, or are they of suspect quality? I have heard the Swedish exported their steel to the other factories for use in all of the m96s.

Thanks!!
 
If the rifle you are getting is quipped with diopter sights, why not just hunt with those? For shooting in a hunting situation out to 300 yards or so, they are fast to get on the target and they don't bust anything loose if the rifle gets dropped.

Basic technique for shooting with any aperture (diopter) sight is the same: both eyes open, put the front sight where you want the bullet to hit and IGNORE the little hole you are peeking through. Ignore it completely: your eyes will line everything up automatically. If you want a darned fine BOOK on shooting with aperture sights, skip over to milsurps dot com and downloed a copy of "Shoot to Live!", which is the Canadian manual for accurate shooting with the Number 4 Rifle. It is about 300 pages and is very well-illustrated. If you can get through it and still not be able to hit with iron sights, well, you're a better man than I!! It was the basic manual we were taught from back in the '60s and we regularly shot our Number 4s out to 600.... with the rather rudimentary issue sights. Our "5" ring, BTW, was just 18 inches. The guys who could afford the Parker-Hale "5C" and "Twin Zero" sights shot out to 1200..... and made good scores..... and often that was with ammo which was as old as the rifles and, sometimes, the shooters as well.

As to the Swedish rifles, I don't think there were ANY bad years. They were ALL good. I have a pair of them, both made in 1899, one at the Mauser-Werke, one at Carl Gustaf. The original Mauser has a worn barrel, one of the worst I have seen on a Swedish rifle; it shoots just a hair over 1 MOA. The Carl Gustaf has a good barrel and it shoots well under 1 MOA. It is 114 years old and it is MUCH better than I am.

I will run way for now. Likely Buffdog will be on shortly. He knows enough about these to write his OWN book; he'll set you straight.

Good hunting!
 
What smellie says.

Why, don't you put an ad into the EE and get one that has already been sporterized???

They usually come with an aftermarket sporter stock, are already drilled and tapped for scope bases etc.

In the end, it's cheaper in the long run and as often as not, the conversion is well done.

By all means, get one of the rifles from Tradex. For its collectability and fun.
 
Thanks! Book downloaded - and the modern gunsmith books too. Great website :)

I will try the diopters first, but my priority is a clean kill. If I don't pass muster with iron (and practice), I will be forced to go to glass. I am right handed and left eye dominate so I'll see how the 2 eye works for me. If it doesn't I'll give lefty a go!

I'll keep an eye out in the EE too. I am pretty sure a buddy has an iron and a scoped version of the '96. Sounds like a good way to spend an afternoon.
 
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If you are looking at a m/96 Mauser for a hunting rifle, why buy a military rifle and try to sporterize it, drill and tap for possible scope, and do things that will lessen it's value?

Weaver bases will NOT fit any existing sight holes. There were six different common diopters available and four different common hole patterns.

Why not go to the Trade-Ex website's section on "Hunting and Sporting Rifles." According to your post, your criteria is for a HUNTING rifle and rifles in this section are more suitable for hunting than a regular standard Milsurp, and possibly even less expensive.

If you want a m/96 Mauser, then choose one of a suitable calibre for hunting such as 6.5x55 or 8x57 Mauser. Next READ the description of the individual rifle. Anthony is very fair and conservative with his descriptions and his "good" would be "very good" from most other dealers. Choose one that already has Weaver bases installed, and more important, a SIDE SAFETY as the military safety is much slower to operate, and requires a very high scope mounting. Most of these rifles come with open sights, but if you want a rear peep sight, one can easily be installed. Make sure that the bolt handle is already bent down for scope use.

Most of these sporterized rifles use surplus Carl Gustaf actions, but if you READ the descriptions, some of them are later made Husqvarna rifles with a high left side wall. These are actions without the thumb cut in the left side wall and are a bit stiffer action but most of them are in 8x57 Mauser calibre. A lot of people shy away from this calibre, but it has much more power than a .308 Winchester and approaches or equals the 30-06 in some loads. Reloading is best as North American ammo for this calibre is underloaded.

By buying a SPORTING rifle, you will save money if you have to mount a scope on it. It would probably cost you another $100 to $200 to have a gunsmith drill and tap the receiver, buy the bases, bend the bolt, and make the military safety more suitable for hunting purposes.

When Trade-Ex lists a rifle as "m/96 Sporter" it is usually a Carl Gustafs action, when listed as "Husqvarna Sporter" it is usually a HVA military action, and when listed as a "Husqvarna COMMERCIAL Sporter" it is a HVA high side wall sporting action made between 1944 and 1950.

Save your self some grief and disappointment by purchasing a Sporter for a HUNTING rifle in the first place, rather than a Military rifle and trying to sporterize it yourself. You will be a lot better off and happier with one that already has the work done for you and is a lot more suitable for your purpose.
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Huh - well I feel a little silly! Suppose I figured the sporterized ones would still be under milsurp so I didn't even look. Thanks for the heads up :)

I pulled the trigger on a M96 Sporter from Trade Ex yesterday. They are cheap and well crafted rifles. $225 for one of these is a steal in my opinion.
 
What caliber? I managed to find one there in 6.5x55 with the high side wall receiver; havent seen one on the site since; they all seem to be 8x57 or 9x57 for the most part.
 
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