Mag fed Short barrel Pump action
- Thread starter Arminhammer
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I like mine... 12 gauge SXP Defender - Kryptec Typhon, 18.5 inch barrel with Invector Plus choke tubes (back bored barrel) about 6.5 pounds and smooth pumping... very bright front sight and you can shoulder it for accurate shooting...
I wouldn't want a barrel any shorter... I don't need a zombie gun...
I wouldn't want a barrel any shorter... I don't need a zombie gun...
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Mossberg Shockwave
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
870dm if I had to pick one, 14” barrel.
I've got the Remington 870 DM that has a about a thousand slugs through it and it's still working fine. My only complaint with them is that the magazine insertion and removal is not as smooth as it could be. Mine have 18" barrels but if I ump into a 14" barrel with a rifle sight and choke tubes I would probably buy it.
Magazines sure make it faster to go from unloaded to ready for action.
Magazines sure make it faster to go from unloaded to ready for action.
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
They work fine from my experience but unlike the mag fed Grizzly from what I recall the 870 dm can close the bolt on an empty mag allowing port loading when the mag is empty, the follower on the Grizzly mag blocks the bolt once the mag is empty.
Small detail I know but it feels like Rem has worked out a better mag system.
Well, I do actually have one. I've always kind of hankered after a mag fed 12ga pump, but wasn't needing one. I bought a Norinco with a 14" barrel. Works just fine. I have three mags for it. My Grandson, a big 19 yr old, shoots clay pigeons with that thing like he has shot for years. He was nailing every one on his first time ever shooting clays. I told him to bring his own damn shotgun next time! 
I originally responded with my post because the title stated "Mag fed Short barrel Pump action"
All pump shotguns have a magazine and all pump shotguns are mag fed... most from a tubular magazine...
Some of you make it confusing when you simply call it a mag fed pump... when you mean detachable mag...
All pump shotguns have a magazine and all pump shotguns are mag fed... most from a tubular magazine...
Some of you make it confusing when you simply call it a mag fed pump... when you mean detachable mag...
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
Generally we’ll say mag fed for a box mag version and tube fed for one with a tubular magazine, at least that’s the way I call them.
Good to know. One of my Grizzlies has an enlarged port, but port loading is still awkward. And all my mags have modified followers, so improvement is welcome. I do like the convenient load/unload.
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- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
Well I’d say you now know a bunch of us that do.
I hunted small game with my mag fed Grizzly a couple years ago and while it worked well the inability to easily port load it with a mag in was a pain, I made removable mag plugs to limit the mag to 2 but loading one in the chamber quickly without a mag in the well was less than enjoyable so I went back using my standard 870. Aside from that issue it was fun to hunt with, this year I used a tac14 clone and successfully shot a fair bit of grouse with it. It surprised me, I didn’t find full power slug or buckshot loads uncomfortable to shoot with the birds head grip.
I have one of those 14" Sinisatti pumps. It has 5 and 10 round mags that feed well.
It has one of those weird spring forends that assist closing the action. I don't like it as you can't leave the action open without inserting so.ething into the chamber.
It is nice to be able to.load.mags with different types.of shells as circumstances dictate.
It has one of those weird spring forends that assist closing the action. I don't like it as you can't leave the action open without inserting so.ething into the chamber.
It is nice to be able to.load.mags with different types.of shells as circumstances dictate.
Ever have someone ask for x job done and when you finish you get a, 'what did you do??'. Fvckin' annoying.
I understand. You are the You're/Your guy on the internet. Even though you know exactly what someone is saying you have to be more correct. It's all good most people understood what I was asking.
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- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I agree, which is why I'm annoyed by incorrect terminology like clip when we mean magazine, bullets when we mean ammunition, or point blank when we mean contact close. In the end no one knows what anyone else is talking about, and it takes additional explanation to make your point.
With respect to box magazines on slide action shotguns, I think the disadvantages out-weigh the advantages. Clearly the advantage of the box magazine is that you can have more rounds available to you with a long box magazine, and that with spare magazines, reloading is much faster than stuffing rounds back into a tube magazine. To me the lines of the gun are spoiled with the box hanging below the receiver, and I would think that gun handling would become unintuitive. However I am not opposed to long magazines on rifles, so perhaps the validity of this complaint is questionable.
A big advantage a shotgun has over a rifle is the wide array of ammunition that is available for it. A serious disadvantage to a shotgun having a box magazine, is the inability to quickly select a different type of ammunition from what is loaded in the magazine. For example, lets assume you wanted to fire a less lethal round when the magazine is loaded with slugs. With a tube magazine, you retract the slide just enough to eject the chambered round, without releasing the subsequent round from the magazine. Drop the selected round in through the ejection port, and close the action. This could be repeated as often as necessary, yet a lethal round would remain instantly available by simply running the action and firing.
In the same situation with a box magazine, switching rounds means either switching magazines, which denies you immediate access to the lethal rounds, or partially dropping the box just enough to drop the select round through the ejection port, close the action, then reseat the magazine, and fire. If it sounds clumsy, it probably is. There is a conversion for Mossberg shotguns that attaches the box magazine to a replacement magazine tube, thus retaining the elevator loading feature within the receiver. Quick changes of ammunition should be possible with this system while having immediate access to the rounds in the magazine, but I can't help but think that attaching a 6-10 round box magazine to the gun ahead of the balance point will make handling awkward. Would the balance be affected more than by rounds in tube magazine? I don't know, perhaps not, but it looks like its possible. Be this as it may, if you intend to use a box magazine on a repeating shotgun, I believe the system for the Mossberg would be superior to one where a magazine follower replaces the elevator in the receiver.
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Valtros/Brixia PM5, 14" 7 round box mags. Italian made quality.
I've had a original Valtros and still have a Brixia currently.
Very smooth action and reasonable priced at $600.00 + tax.
IMO the best box feed shotgun on the Canadian market.
I've had a original Valtros and still have a Brixia currently.
Very smooth action and reasonable priced at $600.00 + tax.
IMO the best box feed shotgun on the Canadian market.
The big advantage of a box magazine shotgun is that you can go much more quickly from the no-ammunition-in-the-gun safe state to being loaded and ready to go, and likewise you can make it safe by ejecting just the chambered round and dropping the mag.
You don't want to have to fill an empty tube quickly or in the dark or such. And having to unload by pumping each round means having to respect the slight chance that it could fire while one of them is chambered.
On the action sports side, carrying a bunch of mags gets you through a stage far faster than having to feed a tube, while on the clays field you're loading at most a second round for doubles. Hunting or being paranoid about little tiny black helicopters going bump in the night would each have their own other considerations.
You don't want to have to fill an empty tube quickly or in the dark or such. And having to unload by pumping each round means having to respect the slight chance that it could fire while one of them is chambered.
On the action sports side, carrying a bunch of mags gets you through a stage far faster than having to feed a tube, while on the clays field you're loading at most a second round for doubles. Hunting or being paranoid about little tiny black helicopters going bump in the night would each have their own other considerations.
