Kodiak99317 said:
The little 6/250 loaded round or a 6BR or a 6XC costs approx. 1/2 as much in powder and bullet as the 338 Donkey loaded round, 36¢ to 49¢ for the small cases vs $1.12 PLUS per round for the Donkey [not counting the cost of the case itself, which is also more, if you can find the good ones (416's)], so you can get twice the mileage and fun for the same price using the smaller case. They both will hit the target at 1000 yds.
...Yup they will get there, with just enough juice to break paper.
(as you saw last year when we went to try the 1 mile shoot, and the 6XC hardley had enough juice to make the bullet stick into the 4x4 post that the Donkey nearly cut in half)
...This bad girl will take any large game animal on this Continent at 1000+yrds and put it in your fridge.(If you eat your wheaties and learn to control the recoil instead of letting the recoil control you.)
...Cost per round using Remington .416 brass, Sierra 250gr SMK, Fed 215M primer,and IMR7828 is $1.26 per round.( alot cheaper than the Lapua by a long shot I hear) Everything it has shot, has died instantly with 0% suffering, and very little meat damage, as you yourself wittnessed last year with the Mule Deer we shot. You just have to place the shot right, at 125yrds it cuts there heads off with a neck shot, at 822 it just throws them 10 feet and where they land, they stay. (Until you put them in your truck)
...Do not mistake this rifle as an "F/O Class" rifle just because it's been seen at the range up against "F Class rifles.
This bad girl was designed and built for one thing and one thing only, killing large game at extreme distances.
This year has just been a trial and error year learning the cartridge, it's capabilities and limitations. So far the only limitations I have found is a place to shoot it where others don't complain about the noise and dirt it kicks up.
(they should buy proper hearing protection and wear their safety glass)
..dan belisle....yes sir they are a moving when they come out of the barrel, but my 3100fps load shows not a sign of high presure. Kodiak99317, a friend of ours from Regina and I, stood on the range about three weeks ago and scratched our heads as I fired 10 rounds thru my chrony and the average velocity was 3311fps(250SMK)
Now those puppies were F...ing hot, but just a very slight extractor mark on the brass, and no resistance when working the bolt that I could notice. (But I am sure that they are not a load I would want to shoot alot of) had to use a drop tube to get all that H4350 into the case. I would realy like to put it on a Strain Guage and see what the h3ll is happening when they go off.
...You have to watch the brass though, .416 takes a bigger hit before you see the slight presure signs, Norma 340 isn't to bad, but 8mm Rem will only give you about 3100fps and you see the signs that say Holly $hit, back that off before you loose your head. I don't know why the .416 works like it does, maybe one of the Rifle Smiths on the forum could shead some light on that for us. I can tell you, that after going thru 1000pcs of each, the .416 is heavier, it's in the area of 260.5-262.5gr and the 8mm is in the area of 258.5-260.5gr. I'm not to sure of the Norma 340 as I only have 10pcs(260.1-261.3gr) that a friend gave me to try some loads on. But all the brass was preped before weighing.(Flash hole uniformed, primer pockets uniformed, fire formed and cut to the same lenght.)
I am getting between 8-14 reloads per brass, but if you hit any of them just hard enough to see slight extractor marks on them, you only have about 3-4 more loads before the primers start to fall out of the pockets. And that doesn't matter if it's the first time fired or the 7th time fired. Once you hit that Remington brass hard once, it's scr-wed.
... I am using anywhere from 10-29 grs less powder than either the .338 Lapua or the .338 UltraMag(that UltraMag is a pig on powder)
