Mailing Pistols Question

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Hi I am selling some handguns and waiting for finalization. It has been almost 20 years since I sent one UPS, they picked it up at my door. My question is this time I am using Canada Post and the lady that I initiated the transfer with said I need a short term ATT to take it to the post office and to double lock the pistol as if I were transporting to the club, is this correct? To me it does not make sense as the gentleman on the receiving end will need the key/ combination to open which I will send with the gun, or is this a mistake and send the key separate? I am confused about this, can someone please set me straight. She transferred me to the CFO and I left a message about this but they will probably call Monday. Tried the search and FAQ but nothing, thanks.
 
I have shipped and received several restricted firearms, all of which were boxed up without a lock. Just make sure it's unloaded and there isn't any ammo with it. You still need an ATT though.
 
Thanks for the reply, I received an AR from Ellwood Epps with no lock as well, I don't mind putting a cable lock on the gun and a combination on the case which I can email the buyer the combo, then once inside the case the key will be in with the pistol, just want to do things right.
 
The last 2 restricted handguns I purchased have arrived with the handgun action and case "locked" with a heavy duty plastic tie wrap. Not sure that it meets the letter of the law but it does make the case "difficult to open" as stated in the regulations.
 
WRH said:
I have shipped and received several restricted firearms, all of which were boxed up without a lock. Just make sure it's unloaded and there isn't any ammo with it. You still need an ATT though.
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Bad advice!

OP, just because someone else has ignored the law and didn't get busted doesn't mean you should take the chance. (BTW, dealers are not subject to the same regulations for shipping as we are.) The gun and the case that it is in need to be locked. The regulations are clear on this. You must use a "secure locking device". Zip ties are adequate, no need to go to the expense and complications surrounding shipping with a key/combo lock. Yes, ATT is a requirement.
 
I wish things were clearer on this point as I have gotten some mixed messages from CFOs. Some have said use double locks while another said there are different rules for mailing but that would only apply if Can Post picked up the package from my residence (as is the case with many dealers I gather). I have yet to find reference in law on this (though haven't really looked).

I received one handgun rattling around in a cardboard box. There were big holes in the box the the post office worker could clearly see a revolver cylinder. This was totally unacceptable IMO. (Thanks westislandrifle). I've received others which were not locked but were at least well packaged so that was better.

For me personally, I don't want to chance it so I picked up some cheap screw on trigger locks ($2 a pop) and use a cheap combo lock on the case.

STATT always.
 
coldestcanuck said:
Bad advice!

OP, just because someone else has ignored the law and didn't get busted doesn't mean you should take the chance. (BTW, dealers are not subject to the same regulations for shipping as we are.) The gun and the case that it is in need to be locked. The regulations are clear on this. You must use a "secure locking device". Zip ties are adequate, no need to go to the expense and complications surrounding shipping with a key/combo lock. Yes, ATT is a requirement.
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So, why is it acceptable for dealers to ship in the cardboard box?
 
Yup…I use Zip ties on the trigger and box(even non-restricted when possible). A temp ATT only takes a quick phone call and you're good to go.
 
coldestcanuck said:
Good question, I'd like to know why they get to play by a different set of rules than us too but that's the law.
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I think the zip tie is a fine idea just to be safe. But I've received several guns that were just in the box with nothing but packing tape between me and the gun.
 
A non transparent container with tape is basically locked. You usually need a tool like a knife or scissors as a key. Same principal as a zip tie
 
My Browning Buckmark arrived via CP in it's factory box complete with make, model and serial # exposed to the world to see, I was quite shocked!
Have never received anything trigger locked from a distributor. I have been informed by a few distributors that I need a locked box, and trigger lock to take possession in person. Now ain't that a contradiction as I could have had said distributor mail it to me.

Yep, CP has left sign for packages in my mail box and in other cases left a pickup notice without attempting to deliver. The classic delivery was 1000+ rounds of sign for 308 ammo in wooden ammo crate left on my front porch over a long weekend.

I have to admit, CP hasn't lost anything on me yet.

Someone please post a pic of a trigger locked pistol using a zip tie. How does that work?


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