Major Dillon XL750 Design Flaw

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I was shocked to learn that the Dillon XL750 cannot run a powder checker in station 3 and bullet feeder die in station 4 when the XL650 could do this without issue. How is the newer press worse than the old?

The reason for this problem is the new orientation of the powder measure system. When the powder bar actuates, it moves towards station 4 and hits the bullet feeder die causing a malfunction.

How the hell did a company like Dillon screw this up so badly? Does anybody else have any insight into this?

Thanks!
 
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Yes, that is what people did on the 650XL.

The setup would be as follows:
Station 1 - De-prime/Re-size
Station 2 - Flare/Powder
Station 3 - Powder Check
Station 4 - Bullet Feeder
Station 5 - Seat/Crimp

Because of the XL750's new and "improved" design, you can either have a powder check in station 3 or a bullet feeder in station 3, not both!

Ironically, they sell both the powder check and Mr. Bulletfeeder for the 750XL but you can't use them both. Furthermore, they make no mention of that on their website.

How did this get past their development and QA team?????

I never expected this from a company like Dillon :/
 
When you modify the 650 to accept a bullet feeder - the powder check station cannot be used. Dillon is not selling either the 650 or the new 750 with a bullet feeder but with a case feeder. The bullet feeder is YOUR add on. Dillon designed the 650 and 750 without a bullet feeder.
There is no design flaw - a bullet feeder is an aftermarket add on and work very very well on the 650. The 750 is the same head except the primer system is different - 550 style.

There is no flaw - you are obviously not familiar with the Dillon.... remove the powder checker die and instal your Mr. bullet feeder at that station. Thats it. It work.

Before making that kind of statement you should at least understand what you are buying.Dillon is not selling a 750 with a bullet feeder. It was NOT designed for a bullet feeder but an aftermarket accessory - MR. Bullet Feeder was designed to fit and work on the 650-750.
You are in the ‘ boonies’ with your flaw story.
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Guys, stop yer whining, apparently you're doing it wrong.
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If you seat and crimp at the same time - powder die work. I do it separatly and here is how it look like.
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I knew the Dillon fanboys would come out sooner or later. God forbid their Blue Masters fell asleep behind the wheel.

Please see the issue I am referencing here:
MR. BULLET FEEDER DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY ON XL750?

The response from Dillon is:
“We here at Dillon understand the issue concerning the simultaneous use of the bullet feeder and the powder check die. We are working to provide a simple fix that will eliminate this problem.”

So let me get this straight, you claim that there is "no problem," whereas the people who designed the press, and screwed up, recognize that there is a problem! Guess who I am going to believe :)

Also, showing pictures of your XL650 working just speaks to how clueless you are. The fact of the matter is that some configurations on a XL650 WILL NO LONGER work on the XL750.

How does a company "fix" something by making it worse in other ways?
 
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Sure looks like a design flaw to me. Was sold as a replacement for the 650, if it can't do what the 650 does then Dillon should have told customers up front. Somebody in R&D dropped the ball big time.
 
I called DAA today and they claim that they have found a solution which will ship first quarter of 2020. It's pathetic that Dillon couldn't come up with a solution.
 
jethunter said:
Sure looks like a design flaw to me. Was sold as a replacement for the 650, if it can't do what the 650 does then Dillon should have told customers up front. Somebody in R&D dropped the ball big time.
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I hear ya man. I don't know why people are defending Dillon for what is clearly a screw up on their part.
 
Shows they don't have many employees, management or marketing, who actually reload and would see the problem in the first place before production.
 
Seems like Dillon is falling behind with their customer base.

With Lyman now owning Mark 7 I won’t be surprised if we see some presses from them that compete favourably with the 650/750 and 1050/1100.
 
Another thing, I was really surprised they adopted the 550 priming system on the 750. I own a 550 and I feel it takes a lot of cleaning to keep it working well in high volume sessions.
 
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Another thing, I was really surprised they adopted the 550 priming system on the 750. I own a 550 and I feel it takes a lot of cleaning to keep it working well in high volume sessions.
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I don't think it is a direct copy of the 550. I think the priming on the 550 happens in station 1, which can get messy due to spent primer residue, whereas the 650/750 does it in station 2.

I may be wrong :)
 
How the heck would you prime on the same station you deprime? NM that the primer comes straight out the front of the press at station 2.
 
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