Making it right - restricted transfer question

[Dukeoflawnchair]

Folks! How are you all doing this evening?

Question - wanting a pulse check on what’s appropriate.

A while back (last June), I ordered a restricted firearm (hand gun) from a retailer. Paid up front and received email confirmation of the transfer being initiated the same month.

Of course, we knew that the CFC was flooded at the time, so I hunkered down for the waiting game. October 21st comes by and the handgun transfer freeze kicks in. No matter - transfers initiated beforehand are still supposed to be processed so long as they were initiated beforehand.

This past week, I get a notice from the CFC saying that the transfer wasn’t initiated until after the 21st of October. The reference number provided by the vendor for when they (allegedly) initiated the transfer was apparently incorrect and they waited until a day too late to initiate my transfer (approx 20 weeks after purchase).

Number of emails to the vendor and no response so far.

I appreciate that honest mistakes happen, but I’m out a full payment and the opportunity to have a handgun now until the rules (hopefully) change.

Thoughts?

 

[Paul_T]

Its on the vendor to refund your money. Nothing else can be done

 

[Suther]

Two options: get a refund, or lawyer up and fight for damages in addition to the refund.

They sold you something that you can't take possession of. It's 100% their fault and they need to at minimum refund you.

 

[alpining]

It's a real bummer, but Suther is correct. Your choice depends on how punitive you want to be.

Sure, it was a wild time for retailers and gun owners. Retailers can be given some slack, but they've got to make it right. The mistake was entirely on the vendor and the consequences are all yours. Frankly, I'd have an issue with the fact that they didn't contact, explain, apologize, and refund you long before now.

 

[B]

Spend $2000+ sueing someone for a probably $1000-/+ pistol? Bad advice. If he paid with a CC he can still probably do a chargeback given the circumstances.

 

[Suther]

Spend $2000+ sueing someone for a probably $1000-/+ pistol? Bad advice. If he paid with a CC he can still probably do a chargeback given the circumstances.

It wouldn't make sense to sue over the pistol itself only. You'd need to also be adding damages to the claim. You can sue for emotional distress for example. If the OP doesn't own any other pistols that might be a factor too as he has now been robbed of the opportunity to enjoy handgun ownership? No idea how that would play out of course, as I am not a lawyer...

 

[johnl]

Who’s the vendor?

 

[Dukeoflawnchair]

Woo - got ahold of the vendor! Sounds like a series of their transfers have gotten the same from the CFC - the CFC being in error. The vendor states that they have evidence of the transfer being initiated earlier and will straighten this out with Miramichi.

Success!

Many thanks for the insight

 

[Gindryden]

Woo - got ahold of the vendor! Sounds like a series of their transfers have gotten the same from the CFC - the CFC being in error. The vendor states that they have evidence of the transfer being initiated earlier and will straighten this out with Miramichi.

Success!

Many thanks for the insight

I read the first post and was wondering how that could happen and if it may be a problem at the CFC end. Great news. Hope things go fast and smooth from here on in.

 

[johnl]

Woo - got ahold of the vendor! Sounds like a series of their transfers have gotten the same from the CFC - the CFC being in error. The vendor states that they have evidence of the transfer being initiated earlier and will straighten this out with Miramichi.

Success!

Many thanks for the insight

Good news, now the 64 thousand question? Whatcha buy

 

[alpining]

Hope it works out for you, Duke.

 

[Gindryden]

Ya what did you buy and Who was the dealer?

If I remember during those days there was one dealer that was having trouble with cfc and transfers. It was not their fault, and for the life of me o cannot remember who it was but it was discussed in the Ontario transfer thread

 

[marshall]

You get a reference number? you should have, but I hear some dealers where not doing it.
If you had your reference number, you could have checked last year, or about Jan, Feb to see what was going on.
My last one was approved Jan I think.

Sounds like it may be approved, but if not ,the dealer has to refund your money as the gun is still registered to their business and they can still sell to the proper buyers,
just not the average pion in Canada.

 

[OneShot321]

I hope you get the resolution you are looking for. When i received my RPAL it was too late. I could find a hand gun to buy anywhere that wasn't way over priced before the date took effect that you could no longer purchase them.

 

[pirate604]

I recall a thread a little while ago regarding a CGN'er in a similar situation that was able to get the transfer initated/approved but it required emails and calls to MP's etc.

It may be worth the fight.

 

[enefgee]

If there's a problem, and any part of the problem involves the CFC, the fault is usually on the CFC. It's mind boggling how bad they are at their jobs.

 

[redbirddog]

personal responsibility.

if you purchased something and did not follow up on it right away its on you. after one or two days, you should of followed up and went after them for a transfer #.

things go wrong time was on your side, you did not manage it, sorry.... but now its credit card fraud on them for billing something they did not do. contact your CC company and sort that out.

publish the vendor.... if they did not credit you. it shows they suck and do not deserve support.

 

[Craig0ry]

personal responsibility.

if you purchased something and did not follow up on it right away its on you. after one or two days, you should of followed up and went after them for a transfer #.

things go wrong time was on your side, you did not manage it, sorry.... but now its credit card fraud on them for billing something they did not do. contact your CC company and sort that out.

publish the vendor.... if they did not credit you. it shows they suck and do not deserve support.

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