Mannlicher Schoenauer 1905 6.5MS worth?

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This one is nothing like I am used to dealing with. A friend of my fathers has been having health problems and is selling some of his collection.
AFAIK this is a Mannlicher Schoenauer 1905 full stock chambered in 6.5x54.
I have no ideas, $500?, $5500. Can anybody ballpark it for me?

Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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If you do a Google search, you will find prices between around $1200 and over $5k in the US for a full wood 1903/1905 one. Selling it for something in this price range in Canada might be something different.

I would talk to a firearms auctioneer to see what the going price in Canada might be.

I did buy a sporterized military model 1903 some years ago from an auctioneer in Western Canada for $700 - nothing compared to what you have but yours is definitely worth more than this.

It also appears that the 6.5X54 caliber is confined to the model 1903, but I could be wrong.

6.5X54 ammo can still be found at gun shows, etc. I was able to find 2 boxes but can't remember the price.

Good luck!

Duke1
 
Don't look at US pricing unless you plan to export the rifle, wich will cost atleast a few hundred dollars American. I bought a 1903 MS 6.5x54 without a scope but with the very desirable Lyman 36 peep for just under $1400 CDN and it has a stock repair! It does matter what type/maker made the scope mount for the rifle as alot of value can be detracted by non factory D&T of scope mounts to the collector, but may add value to the fellow who is looking for a sleek hunting rig with a scope mounted already.I looked at the pictures of the scope mount and it is a Echo 11DC model wich are worth about $125 for the base and rings.Your rifle looks to be in excellent shape, I hope the bore is in the same condition. Does the butplate have the 3 piece cleaning rod under the trap door? as these ussually go for around $300 ,very hard to find. Your rifle has factory sights still installed wich is a bonus. Your rifle has the optional single trigger, so I imagine it was imported into US/CANADA by Stoeger, if so it will be marked(STOEGER) on the bottom of the magazine, if not it should read (MADE IN AUSTRIA) if it was exported to othe Euro countries. many perfer the single trigger her in North America, but the double set trigger is very easy to get use to. The front sling swivel is missing wich can be found threw gunsmiths who work on European guns. I would put a price between $1300 AND $1800 due to the fact that the gun has been D&T outside the factory and this is one of the cheaper made scope mounts( made of aircraft grade aluminum) ,as well as the single trigger for whatever reason is less desirable, but add $300 if the cleaning rod is there on top of the price. So I would price it closer to $2000 if the bore is good and if the cleaning rod is still in the but, they stopped building these guns as they could not make them and still make a prophet, so instead of cheapening the gun they did the right thing and stopped producing them. If they were to make your exact rifle today it would cost about $7000!!! ,this is the slickest most desirable hunting gun ever made, please if you sell it, make sure it goes to a good home where it will be used, they were meant to hunt. take care , if you have anyother questions please PM me, Dale in T-Bay
 
Sorry guys, I couldn't see very well under the scope and thought it said 1905. You are right, it is a 1903. And it is made in austria. Does this affect value much?

Rob - I couldn't find any markings other than an
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I will take pictures of it if you think it is worthwhile. The guy who owns it said it was a "custom". He doesn't know much about firearms and I don't know what he means by this.
 
IF yOUR GUN IS A GENIUNE MANNLICHER SCHOENAUER M1903, on the front action ring on top should be marked
PATENT
Mannlicher
Shoenauer
M1903
and the back ground were this is stamped should be very finely checkered, as well the part of the bolt were the saftey is attached should be finely checked on top as well. Underneath were the scope mount has been D&T to the reciever it should be marked (OESTERR,WAFFENFABR-GES,STEYR) Please take off the top part of the scope by loosening the 2 knurled thumb screws and take a picture of the top of the rifles action and if you have appropriate gunsmithing screwdrivers remove the scope base and take pictures of what is underneath this, but only if you have the owners permission and right tools. The barrel on the right side of the chamber has the appropriate proof marks on your rifle for a commercial made MS M1903. Please take pictures of the triggergaurd and magazine floorplate as this will help date your rifle. Did you check to see if the cleaning rod was under the butplate in the trap? if so pictures would be nice to see!!! I believe within 99% that your gun is a factory commercial MS-M1903, as the other fellow said that it could be made by a famous gunmaker, if it was made by one of the other English/German gunsmiths they would have there name inscribed all over the barrel with the company name and adress as well it would have thier countries proof marks on the bottom side of the barrels chamber. The checkering pattern is right for the serial # range for a commercial gun. I don't have much info on the single trigger other than your trigger gaurd looks correct for your rifle, the barrel should be just under 18" but barrels could be order in any length up to 23", please PM me if you are interested in selling this lovely rifle, Dale in T-Bay
 
RobSmith said:
Check for markings to see if it was re-worked by any "famous" smithy, it can massively increase the perceived value of said firearm.
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unless it says "holland and holland" i doubt a retailers rollmark would do much, especially considering the D&T. overall condition would count for more. after all, mannlicher schoenauer is already famous.
 
Sorry for being off topic but I bet there are at least 100 guys here thinking that they'll go for this rifle when it hits the EE.

This has the revolving magazine right?
 
It Will Sell Quickly

I have an MS in 30-06. It was built in the 1960's. Unfortunately it has only a 1/2 stock. It was in excellent condition when I bought it, seven years ago. I paid $800.00, money well spent.

The MS points beautifully, and is handy in a way that is inexplicable. From the bench, it is likely that any Remington 700 or Savage 110 can outshoot it. But for quick shooting at game in the field, the MS has no peers. It points like a Luger pistol. The action is smooth, and moves like the action on a quality watch. The iron sites line up like a guided missile. That is why hunters loved it, and why I would pay double the $800.00 asked for mine, and perhaps even more than double.

They don't make them anymore, and there will likely never be a rifle like it again.

Look at that disgusting piece of trash Savage is making, called “The Edge.” It is the shape of things to come. Constructed of recycled plastics and metal inferior in quality to that found in many “no-name” beer cans, it is a disgrace to the entire firearms industry. If they can sell "The Edge" for a few hundred bucks, then by implication, a rifle like the MS is almost priceless.
 
Going from a very weak and passing knowledge of MS rifles, I'd say somewhere near $1000, +/- $200? Could very well be over or under, but that's my opinion...... and opinions are like @ssholes....
 
Nice rifle, around here $1200-$1500. I agree with ALFREDS, most of the new guns aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell. Give me an older vintage rifle made of walnut and blued steel. I'm quite happy to be a dinosaur.
 
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