March Scope
- Thread starter jfarrell
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Reticle choice on any scope is going to be up to each person individually. Some people might think certain reticles are to busy with lots of hashes and stuff and want something very simple, others are the reverse. It's gonna come down to preference and what discipline you are generally using it for.
http://www.deon.co.jp/march/Reticles.htm
MTR-1 is a lot like the nightforce NP-R1, MTR-2 has the floating dot. Some like it and some don't.
http://www.deon.co.jp/march/Reticles.htm
MTR-1 is a lot like the nightforce NP-R1, MTR-2 has the floating dot. Some like it and some don't.
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My 3-24 March-fx is on it's way, February cannot come faster
Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
I've just recently been set straight on S&B warranty, and it appears that many of their scopes carry a warranty that is no better than that of March, yet nobody complains about that. Interesting...
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The scopes come with a 30 year warranty including free factory repair and refurbishment if anything goes wrong in the first ten years of ownership! Owners can also pay to have many models rebuilt by the factory with different and/or illuminated reticles, likewise older models can be completely rebuilt to modern specifications.
. Also, if you buy it through Wolverine it is warranty indefinitely ie. forever( I just got off the phone with them).
If March will make theirs even 10 years transferable I will buy at least one and probably 2 or 3.
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The scopes come with a 30 year warranty including free factory repair and refurbishment if anything goes wrong in the first ten years of ownership! Owners can also pay to have many models rebuilt by the factory with different and/or illuminated reticles, likewise older models can be completely rebuilt to modern specifications.
Also, if you buy it through Wolverine it is warranty indefinitely ie forever( I just got off the phone with them).
If March will make theirs even 10 years transferable I will buy at least one and probably 2 or 3.
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Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
S&B warranty ranges from 3-10 years, I believe, depending on the model of scope. Check their website.
I did better than that. I checked with the importer.You may speak to Rob at Wolverine Supply to confirm. I think he should know.
Also I don't think they would be too happy with you spreading misinformation on expensive product they stock lots of.
Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Wolverine may choose to offer an additional warranty program on S&B scopes, but that doesn't change the manufacturer's warranty. See for yourself on S&B's website. No offense to Rob at Wolverine (I just placed an order with them), but getting information from a middle man is not as reliable as getting it from the manufacturer itself. I work as a retailer in the performance automotive industry, and it's the same thing. Would you rather get info from me about Borg Warner's warranty policy on their turbos, or from Borg Warner themselves?
What would be really helpful, is if someone would call S&B and find out what the warranty is on the specific scope that they're interested in. Then we'll know for sure. I'm curious about the PMII line, personally, and since the website is quite vague, it's hard to know for certain. From S&B's website:
"Warranty
With the present Schmidt & Bender scope you are purchasing a high-quality product for which we give you a worldwide warranty under the following conditions:
Within 30 years from the date of the purchase we undertake to entertain a permanent stock of the required spare parts and make sure that our service engineers have all the necessary skills and capabilities to perform the required repair work.
Within 2 years from the date of the purchase we grant a warranty with respect to the applicable statutory warranty claims of the buyer.
As far as the scopes of the Zenith, Klassik and Hungaria series are concerned, the warranty with respect to the statutory warranty claims shall be valid within 10 years from the date of the purchase, with the restriction that any jobs and repairs performed as a result of wear and tear will not be covered by this warranty from the beginning of the 3rd year from the date of the purchase.
The warranty will not be valid for damages caused by improper use.
The warranty shall become void after any intervention and repair performed by any repair service we did not authorize to perform the repair."
What would be really helpful, is if someone would call S&B and find out what the warranty is on the specific scope that they're interested in. Then we'll know for sure. I'm curious about the PMII line, personally, and since the website is quite vague, it's hard to know for certain. From S&B's website:
"Warranty
With the present Schmidt & Bender scope you are purchasing a high-quality product for which we give you a worldwide warranty under the following conditions:
Within 30 years from the date of the purchase we undertake to entertain a permanent stock of the required spare parts and make sure that our service engineers have all the necessary skills and capabilities to perform the required repair work.
Within 2 years from the date of the purchase we grant a warranty with respect to the applicable statutory warranty claims of the buyer.
As far as the scopes of the Zenith, Klassik and Hungaria series are concerned, the warranty with respect to the statutory warranty claims shall be valid within 10 years from the date of the purchase, with the restriction that any jobs and repairs performed as a result of wear and tear will not be covered by this warranty from the beginning of the 3rd year from the date of the purchase.
The warranty will not be valid for damages caused by improper use.
The warranty shall become void after any intervention and repair performed by any repair service we did not authorize to perform the repair."
The point is this. Any Canadian who buys a Schmidt and Bender scope from the Canadian Importer will have a LIFE TIME WARRANTY while March still only offers a 5 year warranty. I will try a March if and when they decide to offer a reasonable warranty.I don't think I am alone in this view as I have seen it mentioned many times on American sites( which is how I became aware of it because initially there was ZERO information on the March website concerning their warranty,ZERO). Of course this has changed now but only after people belly-ached about finding out about the warranty after the fact etc( check it out on 6mmbr as well as other sites).
^^^ what he said...
Not spreading miss information....I have just looked into things because I don't appreciate people doing the same. Misinformation is misinformation and it can go both ways. Wolverine can say they will look after you and further their warranty. March and kelbly's the international distributed is saying something very similar about March. I am glad you called wolverine and saught out some info about S&B, and don't get me wrong, S&B makes great product that has been around for a long time and has proven to be up at the top.
March is up there as well and is putting out some great competition. If the warranty thing scares you off, go with a S&B. No one will fault you for it or tell you you bought an "inferior" product, but you can't walk around saying they have a "lifetime" manufacturers warranty when they don't.
The guy here is asking about how march stacks up, and yes warranty comes into play, but the warranty is comparable to the other high end scopes. So lets go off how the scopes function, the glass, build quality...
Not spreading miss information....I have just looked into things because I don't appreciate people doing the same. Misinformation is misinformation and it can go both ways. Wolverine can say they will look after you and further their warranty. March and kelbly's the international distributed is saying something very similar about March. I am glad you called wolverine and saught out some info about S&B, and don't get me wrong, S&B makes great product that has been around for a long time and has proven to be up at the top.
March is up there as well and is putting out some great competition. If the warranty thing scares you off, go with a S&B. No one will fault you for it or tell you you bought an "inferior" product, but you can't walk around saying they have a "lifetime" manufacturers warranty when they don't.
The guy here is asking about how march stacks up, and yes warranty comes into play, but the warranty is comparable to the other high end scopes. So lets go off how the scopes function, the glass, build quality...
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Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
I agree with you about the manufacturer's warranty of these high-end scopes. It's pitiful for the price you pay for their products.
It's nice that Wolverine is willing to take care of its Canadian customers, but what happens if, heaven forbid, Wolverine goes out of business for some unforeseen reason, or just stops carrying S&B products? Then you're left with the manufacturer's warranty, which may be dissatisfying, to say the least.
You are right about that. I do find the Schmidt and Bender website confusing regarding the warranty.
It's kinda funny a cheap leupold or bushnell has a lifetime warranty .So these 3k scope warranties leave something to be desired.
Back to the March I have read mostly very positive things about them but a few guys did complain about receiving March scopes which were optically inferior.Maybe it was a bad batch or maybe March replaced them. Then again it could have been a competitor posting false info.
Very much agree on the high dollar scopes and their warranties compared to others at a lower price point. I also do understand that very few bushnels see "combat" like the S&B's and Ziess and nightforce. As for the march optical quality and scopes being optically not up to par, I haven't heard of it, but anything is possible, it is a big world and they are a newer company, around 10 years. From what I have seen in my scope and the few others, if it was an issue, it isn't any more. Awesome glass in them. I have yet to be able to sit side by side with a March, S&B and a Ziess hensoldt.....I have seen and used all on separate occasions but it would be a fun time.
