Market value of Savage made No. 4 Mk1*?

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Hi guys,

I'm going to be listing this Lee Enfield for sale and am looking for feedback on a fair asking price.

This seems to be a very nice example of a Savage made No.4 Mk1* with a matching Savage No.4 MkII bayonet. The receiver, bolt and magazine are all stamped with the same serial #.

I have owned this rifle for 15 years and have never fired it. It's in excellent condition. There are a couple of discoloration marks in the finish of the receiver where it is stamped "U.S. Property". The wood is very nice. What do you think is a fair market value for this rifle?

Thanks.

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This one was used in India as indicated by the lateral screw thru the forend.You don't mention bore condition? I see some of the dealers flogging these in the $350-$400 range. It might go for a bit more w/o the screw.
 
Indeed, bore condition;

And with non-original forend, I'd bring it a bit down, more towards $300-$350.

I wonder, were Savage ever issued with the alloy butt plate?
 
louthepou said:
Indeed, bore condition;

And with non-original forend, I'd bring it a bit down, more towards $300-$350.

I wonder, were Savage ever issued with the alloy butt plate?
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Sadly, it looks almost unissued. The Ishapore screw in the forend will lower it's price somewhat though. Yes, the Indians had this rifle but it looks like it wasn't used.

Also, Savages don't command premium prices in Canada, that's reserved for our Long Branch Canadian made rifles. I've seen nice ones sit on the EE because there is not a huge demand for them.

So, I agree with Lou's price.
 
purple said:
You don't mention bore condition?
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It's a two groove bore and it looks perfect - clean & shiny with crisp groves and a clean crown. I tried to get pics, but they wouldn't turn out.

louthepou said:
And with non-original forend...
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How can you tell it's not original - the grooves? Where whould that have been done - India?

cantom said:
Sadly, it looks almost unissued. The Ishapore screw in the forend will lower it's price somewhat though. Yes, the Indians had this rifle but it looks like it wasn't used.
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Funny you should mention that - the dealer I bought it from claimed it was never fired. I wanted to believe him of course, but the skeptic in me just thought "yeah, right!". Perhaps he was actually telling the truth.

This one certainly did not appreciate like the Garand did. I think I paid just under $200 for this back in '95.
 
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There is nothing to indicate that the fore end is Long Branch. Even if it were, it would be correct. Long Branch and Savage, commonly exchanged parts. Many of those same parts were shipped to the UK for final assembly and spares as well.

I feel the rifle is valued in the $350+ range. The Ishy screw is correct for that rifle, because it saw Indian service. Many unknowing individuals assumed the lateral screw, installed by the Indians, indicated stock damage. It was actually installed on all of the Lee Enfields the Indians accepted for service, as a precautionary measure against damage during harsh use. Actually, it serves the same purpose as the cross bolts used on springfield 1903s and on the wrist of laminated stock sks. No one complains about them.

The screw is part of the rifles history and is correct. Therefore there isn't any detraction of value.
 
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