About 35's getting the job done.... A couple of years ago, I was on a moose hunt, with my 35 whelen, and a guy that I ran into up there had just shot and wounded a moose with his 300 win mag, hit it in the back leg. It was running across bogs and beaver ponds and when it was 400 yards off, I lay prone and aimed in front of it's hump as it turned broadside. My partner, and previous owner of ARCH's new 336, still talks about the "thwack" of the 225 grain TBBC bullet that dropped it in its tracks. That 400 yards was confirmed by the 1200' rope that just about reached it to drag it to where we could get a truck. A 35 got that job done.