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So I purchased the Marlin (my first gun ever) recently for my son and me.
I have only heard good things about this firearm but I have had nothing but problems with it.
I think in the 2 trips we've made to the range there have only been 2 clips I have been able to empty out without a FTF/FTE. Been through about 250 maybe 300 rounds? Initial trip we used Wildcat and was told it wasn't so great, so thought maybe it's the ammo. So we went again today with about 6 different brands (we were testing our new Remington 597 VTR as well, and was worried that it would be the troublesome one, it shot everything with nary a hiccup) and hoped it would cure the problems. It was WORSE. First round would always be fine but the next would be exactly as the picture is. Was never able to actually fire 2 or 3 rounds off consecutively without the jam. If a single was put in no problem and bolt would remain open with the empty clip, but once there was another round in the clip it would malfunction.

Have any owners had this problem? If not any ideas what might be causing this? As stated this is all new to me but I'm very good mechanically inclined and can't for the life of me figure what could be the main cause. Extractor? And we have another rifle now that is problem free, so hopefully it's not the putz in me.

any help or insight would be much appreciated.

Cheers
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hard to say for me. Check out rimfire central. there is a sticky in the marlin semi auto forum about making them more reliable. There is a little spring in there that sometimes needs tweaking. I'm sure its nothing major though, If you bought it brand new, the place you bought it should take it back or exchange it.
 
Looks like either the ejector is severely bent to one side, or not there at all. Will it spit out the rounds when cycled manually? Does the bolt cycle fully all the way to the back manually exposing the ejector, if so is there much resistance?
Honestly it could be a lot of things, but I would guess it's an ejector issue first and go from there. If it's off too far to one side the empty will pass over it rather than being spat out during live fire. Try taking the gun down and putting a slight bend in the extractor so that it rides along the inside (right hand side) of the ejector channel in the bolt, but not touching/scraping it. That should ensure it makes good contact with the rim of the empty cartridge.
So sad how much marlins quality control has suffered in the past couple years. That gun should have never left the factory.
 
savagelh said:
hard to say for me. Check out rimfire central. there is a sticky in the marlin semi auto forum about making them more reliable. There is a little spring in there that sometimes needs tweaking. I'm sure its nothing major though, If you bought it brand new, the place you bought it should take it back or exchange it.
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will do that next. Was bought at Lebarons so unfortunately their policy for firearms is no refund or exchange.
 
mikeystew said:
Looks like either the ejector is severely bent to one side, or not there at all. Will it spit out the rounds when cycled manually? Does the bolt cycle fully all the way to the back manually exposing the ejector, if so is there much resistance?
Honestly it could be a lot of things, but I would guess it's an ejector issue first and go from there. If it's off too far to one side the empty will pass over it rather than being spat out during live fire. Try taking the gun down and putting a slight bend in the extractor so that it rides along the inside (right hand side) of the ejector channel in the bolt, but not touching/scraping it. That should ensure it makes good contact with the rim of the empty cartridge.
So sad how much marlins quality control has suffered in the past couple years. That gun should have never left the factory.
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probably will do that and have a look all around.
thanks
 
they may be able to help you with a warranty issue...marlin may even ask the store to exchange it and send the defective one back (unlikely but worth a shot)...or you might have to send it back and wait for the warranty work to be completed. sucks but a new gun should function properly...you shouldn't have to "tweak" it just to make it function properly. as an after thought too, if you start messin around with it then decide to warranty it, they may claim you were the cause of the jamming and void the claim. just my 2 cents
 
pointandshoot said:
they may be able to help you with a warranty issue...marlin may even ask the store to exchange it and send the defective one back (unlikely but worth a shot)...or you might have to send it back and wait for the warranty work to be completed. sucks but a new gun should function properly...you shouldn't have to "tweak" it just to make it function properly. as an after thought too, if you start messin around with it then decide to warranty it, they may claim you were the cause of the jamming and void the claim. just my 2 cents
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I hear you, I've looked at it and overall how it works and since i am new to this I can't tell if what I am seeing is the way it's supposed to be or if it's off.
I'll probably send it in to be looked at Monday and maybe see if they will send it in for me otherwise I'll do it myself. We'll see it Lebarons rep will rear it's ugly head.
Good thing we have another gun to shoot with for the time being.
 
mikeystew said:
Looks like either the ejector is severely bent to one side, or not there at all. Will it spit out the rounds when cycled manually? Does the bolt cycle fully all the way to the back manually exposing the ejector, if so is there much resistance?
Honestly it could be a lot of things, but I would guess it's an ejector issue first and go from there. If it's off too far to one side the empty will pass over it rather than being spat out during live fire. Try taking the gun down and putting a slight bend in the extractor so that it rides along the inside (right hand side) of the ejector channel in the bolt, but not touching/scraping it. That should ensure it makes good contact with the rim of the empty cartridge.
So sad how much marlins quality control has suffered in the past couple years. That gun should have never left the factory.
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okay had a good look and it seems that the closest ejector(since we can't see the inside one) is actually not releasing the shell, am I correct in assuming that a secondary action is required to release it once the bolt goes backwards? Both ejectors still have a hold of the shell when the bolt is pulled back. Mind you this is all done slo-mo.
 
emidyl said:
okay had a good look and it seems that the closest ejector(since we can't see the inside one) is actually not releasing the shell, am I correct in assuming that a secondary action is required to release it once the bolt goes backwards? Both ejectors still have a hold of the shell when the bolt is pulled back. Mind you this is all done slo-mo.
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Yes, the secondary action is the ejector, not to be confused with the extractor. The ejector is a little finger like protrusion that you can see emerge from a slot in the bolt when the bolt is driven rearward. The bolts extractor claw holds the empty, and as it comes back, the ejector finger pops out of the bolt and pushes the left side of the empty shell forward and the shell gets flicked out of the gun.
It really sounds like yours either doesnt have an ejector at all, or it is so loose or bent that it is not making contact with the empty shell when the bolt travels backwards.
 
ok so after taking it apart again, I played around with the ejector pin just to see how it is sliding along the bolt rail.
By doing it with my hand I was able to actually make it slide by the shell and not kick it out. I realize the tolerances will be tighter once actually in the receiver so I did a dry run with all pieces in the receiver and with the extractor pins holding a spent shell and was able to replicate the missed ejection.

I took the ejection arm and slightly bent it so that it would actually slide along the inside of the bolt rail so that it would have no choice but to kick it out.

All good in theory and "lab" tested, just got to fire off a trio tomorrow and see how it works out.

thanks for all the input.

cheers
 
Update

My son was able to fire off 6 rapid fire rounds today and not one jam, and that's saying a lot considering what we went through yesterday.
Seems like it was the ejector arm not riding the correct spot.
Will have to play with it again next week but things look to be rectified.

thanks for all the help everyone couldn't have done it without your wisdom.

cheers
 
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