Marlin Papoose Barrel replacement options...

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I am in the market for a super short and light, but still non restricted .22

I want semi auto, not super interested in a Ruger 10-22

So I started thinking, how hard would it be to have a short barrel made for a Marlin Papoose?

Has anyone ever done this?

Thanks
 
Another option would be to have a gunsmith cut down the original barrel, if you really wanted. This would be cheaper than having a new barrel custom made.
 
Papoose

Yeah...Marlin have really missed the mark with the Papoose....

Not surprising with the current state of affairs at Marlin!

The papoose concept is a great idea poorly executed IMO.
The gun should have the shortest OAL remaining legal....including the barrel and stock.
It's supposed to be as compact as possible so why the ridiculous barrel length and standard LOP??

The stock should have hollow storage as well.

I get that they are simply slapping together leftover parts from the other line of rifles but the price doesn't reflect that.

The gun should be a lot more compact, both assembled and taken down with a hollow, shorter buttstock.

I think they would sell a boatload of these in this configuration.
Would make an outstanding survival/bugout/hiking/all around lil' piece.
I'd line up for a couple!

As for the ridiculousness of the current laws ....well........
I would have modded the stock and barrel of several Papoose's ( and other rifles for that matter) by now if that were the case.

Course when the world turns to ####e I doubt there will be too many Mounties runnin' around with tape measures !! lol
 
zuke said:
"The gun should have the shortest OAL remaining legal....including the barrel and stock."


It is according to US law's.
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Ruger manufactures and sells the 1022 with a 16in barrel, as do others in the US.
Not to mention Stevens, Norinco etc seem to be able to provide short barrel 22lr's to the Canadian market??
 
marlin have to work with the laws in the US of A not canada so the barrel and stock have to be 26" oal and have atleast a 16" barrel on a rifle

if you want light and a hollow stock get a henry AR 7 i like the AR 7 for what it is a survival rifle its not ment for rapid fire or to be a daily shooter

i like the papoose a little better you dont have to take the scope off to store it and it can rapid fire and be a daily shooter
 
G.Mitchell said:
I am in the market for a super short and light, but still non restricted .22

I want semi auto, not super interested in a Ruger 10-22
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While I like the papoose, it still has an action-forward magazine......if Tacsol or someone else would make barrels again (or if you can score a used one), the BMR would be perfect.

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camerl2009 said:
marlin have to work with the laws in the US of A not canada so the barrel and stock have to be 26" oal and have atleast a 16" barrel on a rifle

if you want light and a hollow stock get a henry AR 7 i like the AR 7 for what it is a survival rifle its not ment for rapid fire or to be a daily shooter

i like the papoose a little better you dont have to take the scope off to store it and it can rapid fire and be a daily shooter
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That's what I mean.

The gun could be shorter than it is and still meet US laws. It could be considerably shorter, especially barrel length, for CDN laws as long as Marlin produces it that way.

Marlin could reduce the barrel to 16in and shorten the LOP a bit and still meet US laws and have a shorter/lighter more compact setup.

I'm well aware of the AR7 style rifles. As you stated they are OK for lot's of packing/carry and lil' shooting. They don't hold up to much shooting as well as are a pisspoor shooter when you are shooting them.

When the chips are down....lost/foraging/apocalypse/zombies etc...is the LAST time i want to deal with a misfeeding/jamming/innaccurate gun.
I own and have owned Papoose's and AR7's....
There is no comparison between them when it comes to practical accuracy/reliability/durability/shootability...the Marlin is a better mousetrap.
 
My AR7 will shoot 1" groups at 50 yds, good enough for subsistence hunting in a survival situation. however when it gets really dirty, it will double or more. I keep it clean and in the bottom of my pack.
 
terez said:
1, Yeah...Marlin have really missed the mark with the Papoose....
Not surprising with the current state of affairs at Marlin!

The papoose concept is a great idea poorly executed IMO.
The gun should have the shortest OAL remaining legal....including the barrel and stock.

2, It's supposed to be as compact as possible so why the ridiculous barrel length and standard LOP??

The stock should have hollow storage as well.

3,I get that they are simply slapping together leftover parts from the other line of rifles but the price doesn't reflect that.


4,The gun should be a lot more compact, both assembled and taken down with a hollow, shorter buttstock.

5,I think they would sell a boatload of these in this configuration.
Would make an outstanding survival/bugout/hiking/all around lil' piece.
I'd line up for a couple!
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1, The marlin 70p has been around since the 70's... so, i dont see what that has to do with marlins current state of affairs.

2, Not compact as possible.. period, its supposed to be as lighweight and compact as possible without forfeiting any of the comfort, reliability, and accuracy as a full size model. The longer barrel gives you a better sight radius and therefore better accuracy, which is very important in a survival situation.

3, Not true at all. while the action is the same, that hardly means it's "slapped together from leftover parts", infact the way the barrel is fitted into a sleeve rather than being screwed in as usual makes them harder to make properly.

4, see point 2

5,They do sell a boatload of these
 
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terez said:
That's what I mean.

The gun could be shorter than it is and still meet US laws. It could be considerably shorter, especially barrel length, for CDN laws as long as Marlin produces it that way.

Marlin could reduce the barrel to 16in and shorten the LOP a bit and still meet US laws and have a shorter/lighter more compact setup.

I'm well aware of the AR7 style rifles. As you stated they are OK for lot's of packing/carry and lil' shooting. They don't hold up to much shooting as well as are a pisspoor shooter when you are shooting them.

When the chips are down....lost/foraging/apocalypse/zombies etc...is the LAST time i want to deal with a misfeeding/jamming/innaccurate gun.
I own and have owned Papoose's and AR7's....
There is no comparison between them when it comes to practical accuracy/reliability/durability/shootability...the Marlin is a better mousetrap.
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theres some laws over there that dont make any sense
 
mikeystew said:
1, The marlin 70p has been around since the 70's... so, i dont see what that has to do with marlins current state of affairs.

2, Not compact as possible.. period, its supposed to be as lighweight and compact as possible without forfeiting any of the comfort, reliability, and accuracy as a full size model. The longer barrel gives you a better sight radius and therefore better accuracy, which is very important in a survival situation.

3, Not true at all. while the action is the same, that hardly means it's "slapped together from leftover parts", infact the way the barrel is fitted into a sleeve rather than being screwed in as usual makes them harder to make properly.

4, see point 2

5,They do sell a boatload of these
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Do you work for Marlin or something?? A li' thinned skinned me thinks.

I'm well aware of the previous marlin quality vs the current guns...which is why I commented on it.
I own several Marlins, all older manufacture, including a Papoose.
The last couple of late model Marlins I owned and handled were very substandard.

My original point which is quite valid is that the Papoose is a great concept that could be even better if the gun was more compact and had some other features in keeping with the concept. It also could be lighter. None of these features would seriously detract from the intrinsic shooting and functionality of the excellent Marlin design IMO.

As for sight radius, it's not a biathalon gun. I can make squirel head shots with my Ruger MK11 at reasonable distances so I'll "suffer" the seemingly short sight radius of a ~12in carbine! lol

If I wasn't living under such a left wing protectionist nanistate government that would see me in a federal pen for hunting with a 22lr pistol ALL of my hunting would likely take place with some seriously reduced sight radius....LOL
 
Marlin lists the Papoose as having a 16.25" barrel. They can't go shorter for the US market.
They could do a run with shorter barrels for sale here. There is a catch - with a short Cdn. legal barrel, the rifle would be a federally controlled SBR in the US. This would be a major problem for Marlin. They would have to manufacture, then apply to export, NFA controlled firearms. Significant hurdle. Not likely to happen.

It would be easy enough for a Cdn. business to do a run of short aftermarket barrels for sale here.

A one-off short barrel could be made from a blank.

Pull length of the stock could be easily adjusted.
The plastic stock on current production is likely hollow. At the same time that pull length is adjusted, a quick detachable buttplate could be fitted to create a storage compartment.
Anything is possible.
 
i dont really know why people like super short barrels the powder in a standered .22 stops burning at about 16 inch and cci stingers burns to about 24"(slower burning powder to get more fps but you need a longer barrel to make any differnce)

on .22s ilike longer barrels once i get my hands on a single shot with a bad bore im going to put a 30 or so inch barrel on it this would make it sound like a pellet gun but have alot more punch
 
CanAm might be a company to approach. I'm sure Norinco could make one that might even be better than the current fit and finish if it is that bad at Marlin now.
I'd be up for one as I had a AR7 and won't go down that road again.

James
 
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