Marstar Czech surplus, Corrosive?

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Hi there.
On Marstar's military surplus Ammo page,
this czech surplus stuff they sell in crates (7.62X54r, 7.62TT etc)
is it corrosive?

I ask because it doesn't seem to say so anywhere on the page, and usually resellers are very obvious in stating when ammo is..

thanks for clarification,

-Derek
 
mmmmkay..

well.. someone suggested that since I'll be using it in a Mosin, all I need to do is clean the bore with some bleach or ammonia, then patch as usual, and that's pretty much it..


as for a Tokarev, i assume the procedure is a bit more involved,
can someone tell me their technique? (the easier/simpler the better of course)

thanks for your answers guys!

-Derek
 
Primer salts are water soluble. Dissolve them out, dry, clean with regular cleaning products, oil. Hot water is better than cold, warm steel dries faster, will also rust faster if you do not procede with the rest of the cleaning process quickly. Check the rifle daily for the next few days, wiping out if necessary, to make sure you got all the residue. Temperature and humidity are factors; southern Ontario summer is coming, so keep that in mind.
For the pistol, you have to clean all surfaces that are powder fouled.
Windex, ammonia, will cut copper fouling, don't have anything to do with primer salts. Its the water in which the ammonia is dissolved that helps with the salts.
DO NOT allow any bleach to contact any steel part you value. Unless you want to artificially age the piece, with pitting, corrosion, discolouration, etc.
Commercial soft point 7.62x54R from Serbia is n/c (Prvi Partizan, Igman), S&B brass cased 7.62x25 may be.
 
All i do for my rifles is run a couple patches with oil on them first while i wait for some water to boil with dish soap in it. Then pour the boiling water down the barrel and on the bolt parts and everywhere else gases and residue might have gotten to. After i pour some water down the barrel i run a dry patch through then repeat maybe 10-15 times. Then i run some more oily patches and keep doing this till there is no more or very little crap on the patches then oil the bore very well and in a day or two check to see if there is any rust forming. Works for me and i've had no problems with this method so far but i imagine there are many more methods that are just as good out there.
 
ughh... thanks very much everyone..

but.. i don't know..
it just seems so involved, risky, and wasteful (in terms of fluids, material, etc)

I'd love to take advantage of the prices of Crates, but... I don't know.

if it means risking damage to the bore, and the waste of money on fluids/material, and yes, the time/stress involved in cleaning/checking, waiting, checking etc..

I don't know..

apparently anything made after 1970 is not corrosive. whether it uses berdan or not..
but even so.. that's still risk, and i'd still end up doing a cleaning regime anyway.

UH!! i just don't know.
 
Don't make any assumptions about corrosive/noncorrosive status based on dates of manufacture. There is very fresh corrosive ammunition, very old noncorrosive. Nor is Berdan/Boxer a reliable indicator. Unless you know to a certainty that ammunition is n/c, assume that it isn't.
Look, corrosive primed ammuntion isn't instant death to barrels, you just have to deal with it properly.
 
I have been using that stuff for a while .......and all you have to do is wash it in boiling water spray some oil and you should be ok
i have been using that routine on my vz and no probs
 
It'll take you as much extra time to clean the Mosin as it took you to read this thread. Wasteful is spending 3X the $ on ammo to avoid boiling a kettle and a dispensing a squirt of dish soap. You're putting too much thought into this. Do it once and you'll see what everyone is talking about. You're just rinsing off salts, no big whoop.
 
dangertree said:
It'll take you as much extra time to clean the Mosin as it took you to read this thread. Wasteful is spending 3X the $ on ammo to avoid boiling a kettle and a dispensing a squirt of dish soap. You're putting too much thought into this. Do it once and you'll see what everyone is talking about. You're just rinsing off salts, no big whoop.
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Agree, I almost only shoot corrosive ammo, just clean your firearm after and apply oil as needed, and you will never have any issues.

Just use boiling water, windex, hobbes etc, all great stuff against corrosive ammo.
 
OK :)!


I will do it!

thanks.

as for the boiling water, how do I put it down the barrel?
should I use a plastic funnel, and pour it through into the bathtub?

then spray with windex, wipe wipe wipe,
then spray oil, wipe wipe?

that sound like a good routine?
 
A funnel works. You don't want to pour water into the action and inletting. Just flush the barrel, dry it thoroughly. If you use water, you don't need windex. Once you've done that, clean the barrel as you would if shooting non corrosive. Oil it, then check it and wipe it out if necessary for a few days afterwards.
 
OK! thanks so much!

so, boil water, put funnel into breech, pour water through, into bathtub,
patch dry,

patch over and over a few times, then oil patch,
check over next couple days, clean check, patch oil etc.

I think I've got it.
seems totally fine.

also, if I shoot some corrosive, then clean the gun like... several hours later is that ok?
i mean we're not talking immediate onset of damage are we?
thanks so much everyone..you've really loosened my apprehension here
 
BBq_Woa! said:
also, if I shoot some corrosive, then clean the gun like... several hours later is that ok?
i mean we're not talking immediate onset of damage are we?
thanks so much everyone..you've really loosened my apprehension here
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Dude, your making a mountian out of a mole hill. Buy that corrosive ammo, blast 1,000 rounds though it and clean your rifle, hours later if you like. No worries...
 
clean? sks? nah....

I've cleaned it twice since I've gotten it. Once when I first got it and took it apart and got the cosmo out and a second time at abount 600 rounds. I am now down to only about 14 boxes of Czech stuff left. oh well :D
 
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