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- Thread starter billybob
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GAIRLOCHIAN
Regular
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- NOVA SCOTIA, CANADA
$1000
It's hard to determine the age of the rifle as the picture that might show the date stamp or serial number is insufficiently clear. Since it doesn't have an adjustable cheek, I'd guess that it's a mid-1960's model 1413 (assuming stock and barreled action originally came together). It has a double set trigger, which potentially makes it more attractive. The rear diopter and front globe, if original, may be appealing to someone looking for a complete rifle with original sights, but the post above makes no mention of other original accessories such as the hand rest and palm rest.
The actual condition of the bore can't be determined by looking down the barrel. A borescope can confirm its condition.
The actual condition of the bore can't be determined by looking down the barrel. A borescope can confirm its condition.
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1500 with all accessories assuming good condition. - dan
Solid 14xx Annie. The year can be found on the left side of the barrel (which changed from numerical to alphabetical coding).
Value is in eye of the beholder I suppose. $1500 - 2000 wouldn't be outrageous to the right buyer based on two nice stocks, accessories, presence of both sights (front adjustable). However, it's a bit of a limited market of interest for these older rifles hence pretty large range.
Value is in eye of the beholder I suppose. $1500 - 2000 wouldn't be outrageous to the right buyer based on two nice stocks, accessories, presence of both sights (front adjustable). However, it's a bit of a limited market of interest for these older rifles hence pretty large range.
If you're looking for the rifle's value so that you can get the best price in a sale, sell the rifle with the original stock and post the second stock separately in the parts and accessories section of the Rimfire EE. The incomplete extra stock for one barreled action is not likely to be a deal clincher.
The fact that this barreled action is in a free rifle-style thumbhole stock (xx13) doesn't make it a better or worse shooter than if it was in a xx 11 prone stock (both the 1413 and 1411 use the same barelled action). The thumbhole stock is better for position shooting, but if someone is looking to use it from the bench the xx13 stock is less well suited than a xx11 stock. Having said that, however, over the last few years observing these two models on the EE, it seems that the xx13 thumbhole stock rifles seem to get buyers a little more excited. At the same time, the suggestion that this rifle, which is probably about 55 years old, would sell for $2000 is rather optimistic.
OP, to confirm the age of the rifle, please indicate what the date stamp is on the left side of the barrel near the receiver. If you can't see one, what is the serial number (you need only give the first three digits and say how many digits the SN has)?
The rear part of the stock on the gun has been altered (hacked) , the extra stock just needs a piece added to the back in order to make it a nice bench rest stock, the set trigger is a #5039.
I find that trigger a bit of a pain, every time you close the bolt you need to set the trigger, old technology.
$1500 tops, for the lot.
I find that trigger a bit of a pain, every time you close the bolt you need to set the trigger, old technology.
$1500 tops, for the lot.
It is old technology, but double set triggers need to be set. Even newer rifles with more recently designed double set triggers set the same way.
One of the things that appealed to many 1413 shooters was that this set trigger could be adjusted from an incredibly low 1/6 ounces (that's 0.167 ounces) to 2.5 ounces. Of course there is little need for that low of a trigger pull -- the top-of-the-line Anschutz trigger on current rifles, the 5018 trigger, can adjust down to 2.1 ounces.
While the Canadian market is much different than the American, a few years ago the 5039 triggers south of the border were fetching more than a new 5018 trigger goes for, an example of the appeal of the 5039.
One of the sponsors here is selling the Chinese version of the 1413 on the EE, for less then 1K, wondering if anyone has one and what they are like.
https://truenortharms.com/ar15_defau...ifle-22lr.html
https://truenortharms.com/ar15_defau...ifle-22lr.html
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For a look at what a more complete 1413 looks like, below is page from Shooter's Bible about 1964-65 and an ad from the same period. These rifles have more than held value.
Neat to see the ad documents. I still have a 1408 as shown. Had it now for 50yrs. I used to shoot Cdn Sporter class, so I had it customized to meet 7 1/2# limit. Entailed turning the bbl down substantially. Still an awesome rifle. Not intending to hijack the thread; just sharing experience.
An interesting thing about the original 1408 models is that their barrels are slimmer and a little longer than the later 1408 rifles, which share the barrel dimensions of xx07 barrels -- that is 660mm in length and 22mm in diameter. I don't remember the dimensions of the older ones, but I had one of them from 1964. It had dovetail grooves on the rear half of the receiver only. The 1408 gave way to the 1407 by the later 1960s. I ask for the OP's indulgence to allow me to share a picture of the 1964-made 1408.
Nice looking rifleAn interesting thing about the original 1408 models is that their barrels are slimmer and a little longer than the later 1408 rifles, which share the barrel dimensions of xx07 barrels -- that is 660mm in length and 22mm in diameter. I don't remember the dimensions of the older ones, but I had one of them from 1964. It had dovetail grooves on the rear half of the receiver only. The 1408 gave way to the 1407 by the later 1960s. I ask for the OP's indulgence to allow me to share a picture of the 1964-made 1408.
