Match ammo
- Thread starter WW2GURU
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I don't know any company that makes 30-06 match ammo. If your Garand has been rebarreled to 308, then I believe Federal makes match ammo. Otherwise, get into reloading and make your own match ammo.
"...with off the paper MOA..." If it won't shoot a group at 100 yards with whatever ammo you're using now, match grade ammo won't help. You should be getting 3" to 4" or so groups, at 100, with any decent milsurp ammo. How's the barrel? TE and MW?
Federal loads a 168 grain Matchking .30-06 in their Premium Gold Medal brand. Haven't a clue where to get it though. Won't be cheap, but if a retailer's distributor has it they can get it.
You're best reloading your own though. 168 grain Matchking(or any other brand) bullets out to 600 yards, 175 grain Matchkings past there. Both using IMR4064 and regular large rifle primers.
"...150 gr Full Metal Flat Bottom
50 gr IMR 4895 M1 ammo load from WWII..." That's .30 M2 ammo. .30 M1 ammo used a 174.5 grain bullet at 2640fps. There's no guarantee that 50 grains will shoot well out of every rifle either.
Federal loads a 168 grain Matchking .30-06 in their Premium Gold Medal brand. Haven't a clue where to get it though. Won't be cheap, but if a retailer's distributor has it they can get it.
You're best reloading your own though. 168 grain Matchking(or any other brand) bullets out to 600 yards, 175 grain Matchkings past there. Both using IMR4064 and regular large rifle primers.
"...150 gr Full Metal Flat Bottom
50 gr IMR 4895 M1 ammo load from WWII..." That's .30 M2 ammo. .30 M1 ammo used a 174.5 grain bullet at 2640fps. There's no guarantee that 50 grains will shoot well out of every rifle either.
The milsurp is very much in the 3-4 inch range. Its the remington junk that i bought at .68 cents a shell that sux. I dont have the numbers for the TE and MW but they were near brand new last year and i've only put 200 rounds or so thru the rifle since. I'd like to go to some service rifle matches and dont want to suck because of the ammo. I dont want to use the corrosive milsurp in this particular rifle. Thanks for the input, it gives me somewhere to start and some experimenting to do. Any excuse to get to the range right?.
One trick is Mexican Match. Take milsurp ammo, pull the bullets and reseat Match bullets of a similar weight.
If you re-weigh (or re-throw) the powder charges, that might help, too. Most of the accuracy of the ammo comes from the better bullet. Mexican Match should show up in your group size. Would not be surprised to see group cut in half.
If you re-weigh (or re-throw) the powder charges, that might help, too. Most of the accuracy of the ammo comes from the better bullet. Mexican Match should show up in your group size. Would not be surprised to see group cut in half.
Match Ammo
As I recall, it was around $28-30 per box. I like it due the fact that it was made by Federal for the Garand, according to master armorer Gus Fisher, who posts on the Culver Shooting Page (www.jouster.com) and is a recognized Garand authority and National Match armorer. I communicated with him after PMC went down and I needed to find a new source of Garand ammo. He recommended American Eagle 150-gr. FMJ .30-'06 for practice and the Federal match ammo for competition. P & D also has a good deal on the AE, at $153 ticket price per 200 rounds, or about $18 per box. (I'm broke right now) My Garand liked both Federal loads.
As I recall, it was around $28-30 per box. I like it due the fact that it was made by Federal for the Garand, according to master armorer Gus Fisher, who posts on the Culver Shooting Page (www.jouster.com) and is a recognized Garand authority and National Match armorer. I communicated with him after PMC went down and I needed to find a new source of Garand ammo. He recommended American Eagle 150-gr. FMJ .30-'06 for practice and the Federal match ammo for competition. P & D also has a good deal on the AE, at $153 ticket price per 200 rounds, or about $18 per box. (I'm broke right now) My Garand liked both Federal loads.
The answer is simple. Somewhere between 48 to 50 grains of Varget or IMR 4064 (depending on your rifle's preference and limits) pushing a 168-grain match bullet out of any decent case (and that would even include LC 69 brass), seated about 0.020" off the lands.
My personal load is 50 grains of Varget with the above components. That's actually a "standard" load that I've found to be excellent in every .30-06 I've tried, bolts, pumps, etc., included.
My personal load is 50 grains of Varget with the above components. That's actually a "standard" load that I've found to be excellent in every .30-06 I've tried, bolts, pumps, etc., included.
