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I have a 71/84 carbine that I'm thinking of moving down the road but honestly have no idea what they're going for these days. It's in really nice shape with a great bore and shoots very well with a cast 286gr and a less than max charge of 4198.

I do still have a Model 71 that I'll hang onto to scratch the .43 Mauser itch if I need to (family farm gun) but I've got too much stuff that does not get used enough so this one is excess to requirements...

Any info appreciated!!


blake
 
I don't thing they ever made a 71/84 Carbine, so if Bubba got to it it is likely a $150-200 gun.
 
It isnt a Carbine model, but in the last year, I purchased an 1887 dated Danzig produced 71/84. Bolt, barrel, receiver matching sn’s. Bright/excellent bore. Depending on condition, a Carbine might fetch $500-$800 for a standard model, $300 or so for bubba’d Carbine .

mudgunner49 said:
I have a 71/84 carbine that I'm thinking of moving down the road but honestly have no idea what they're going for these days. It's in really nice shape with a great bore and shoots very well with a cast 286gr and a less than max charge of 4198.

I do still have a Model 71 that I'll hang onto to scratch the .43 Mauser itch if I need to (family farm gun) but I've got too much stuff that does not get used enough so this one is excess to requirements...

Any info appreciated!!


blake
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I'm sorry to bring bad news, but unless you have one of experimental carbines yours is Bubba's work. No carbines were mass manufactured. Thus it's 150-200 item.
 
German Military Rifles and Machine Pistols, 1871-1945 German Military Rifles and Machine Pistols, 1871-1945, Book, By Gotz, Hans-Dieter, makes no mention of a 71/84 carbine.

There is information on the conversion of French 1866 Chassepot rifles converted to carbines, in the book, some used the French Chassepot cartridge and some were converted to the Mauser metallic 11mm cartridge.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=Pm... conversions of 1866 Chassepot rifles&f=false
 
Well I was reading though my recently acquired book on Serbian firearms, and in it there is a 1871/84 Carbine and 71/84 Arty Musketoon. Very small production numbers for it and it is in the Serbian 10.15x63mm cartridge however this could possibly be what the OP has. Just bringing this up as I was reminded of this thread when I saw it in the book. Just like Enfields never say never with Mausers.
 
The Serbian Model 1878/80 looks similar to the German 71/84 but has significant differences, mainly the support rail on the tang.

This article talks about a repeater, but the drawings show a single shot rifle.

http://sportsmansvintagepress.com/r...contents/mauser-model-78-80-serbian-repeater/

http://www.icollector.com/HISTORIC-PROTOTYPE-MAUSER-MILANOVICH-10-15MM-M78-SERBIAN-RIFLE_i17332803

http://www.militaryrifles.com/serbia/80Milova.htm

http://www.militaryrifles.com/serbia/More80Milova.htm
 
Here is the photo from the book "Serbian Army Weapons of Victory 1914-1918" by Branislav Stankovic and John Sheehan. Highly recommended if you have a interest in WWI, the Balkans, and Balkan arms.

Both the Carbine and Musketoon are exceptionally rare in this day and age simply due to a lack of quantity to begin with coupled with WWI and the Balkan Wars consuming them.

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The M80 rifle is just a improved M71 Mauser (note it is better than a standard M71, there is a guide rib for the bolt, a better cartridge, and progressive rifling). The 1884 Musketoon and the 1884 Carbine both have a 71/84 style of tubular magazine and can hold 5 in the tube, one on the lifter, and one in the chamber. There is no direct photo showing the mechanism for the magazine in the book (it has a 71/84 magazine photo to describe how it works), however here is a photo of both firearms from different angles, note the lifter on the Carbine, and how both have the magazine cutoff levers on the receiver. Again highly recommended book for those interested.

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Eaglelord17 said:
Well I was reading though my recently acquired book on Serbian firearms, and in it there is a 1871/84 Carbine and 71/84 Arty Musketoon. Very small production numbers for it and it is in the Serbian 10.15x63mm cartridge however this could possibly be what the OP has. Just bringing this up as I was reminded of this thread when I saw it in the book. Just like Enfields never say never with Mausers.
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Yes, that's great, but they aren't 71/84 carbines.
They are the mod. 1884 cavalry carbine and short artillery rifle in 10.15x63 caliber.
 
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