Mauser question

The Spanish Mauser predates the 98 action. The most significant differences are the lack of the third safety lug at the rear of the bolt and they #### on closing.
 
"spanish mauser" is a pretty broad term. probably the definative one is the 1893. but there was a 1891 or 92 (with protruding magazine like the argentine 1891). there were also '98 types like the mauser standard modell, and the 1943 and 44 (similar to the vz24 and the polish wz29). then there were the reworks FR7 ('93 type action) and the FR8 ('98 type action).

spain made or bought mauser type rifles from the early 1890's all the way to the late 1950's in 7.65x53, 7x57, 8x57, and 7.62x51.
 
carbine

Hello Gents,

I've got a FR-7 Spanish Mauser carbine for sale. It's a 7.62X51 caliber (of course) and there's a nice/shiny bore. The rifling is clearly visible

Over all it's in pretty good condition, got a few dings/dents in the stock but nothing out of line with a old surplus rifle.

The receiver and bolt numbers match, couldn't find any other numbers on it.

Here's a picture (sorry it's kinda big):

*** This is the one in the exchange I was refering to.********
 
Link to rifle in question: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330208

cal. jeffrey said:
*** This is the one in the exchange I was refering to.********
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To answer your original questions:

FR “Fusil Reformado” or “Modified Rifle” 7 & 8

The Spanish FR7 is based on the 1916 Mauser action, so no it is not the same as a K98. The other version, the FR8 is based on the 1943 Mauser action. Both rifles were produced to supplement a shortage of CETME rifles in Spain. I would say the FR7 is less common than the FR8 and both versions are more uncommon than some other types of milsurps.

The FR7 action is not as strong as the FR8's, having said that it was designed to shoot the 7.62x51 NATO round and therefore IMO is safe to do so. (despite what some might say, it was not designed to use 7.62x51 CETME cartridges) I would not shoot any .308Win or any hot hand loads in a FR7 to be safe.

Some background info on FR7/FR8 rifles:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/spanishinquisition/index.asp

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/fr8/index.asp

http://www.gunsworld.com/spain/cetmefr8_us.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_5_52/ai_n26798606/

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIID2a191.html


Note the turned down bolt handle, and straight stock.
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Note the straight bolt handle, and pistol grip stock.
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Thread of FR7 kaboom with hot reload:

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/vi...sid=884cb01dae20db1a6cda3a585a4ffc59&start=15
 
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MiG25 said:
i really like the FR7, i use 300 savage level loads though.
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I do the same thing as MiG25.................300 Savage loads, and limit bullet weight to 150 gr. I don't think there will be any pressure issues with my FR7 because it has a long throat in the chamber.

I use the 200 yd aperture as my 100 yd sight and adjust elevation with the front sight.
 
John Sukey said:
Juststay away from the .308 conversions of those FR7's. The conversion was not well done, and in fact at least one I know of, blew up.
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John, I am always leery when someone says stay away from this or that gun. I think every experienced shooter has seen a firearm fail or had it happen to themselves. (For a while the Canadian Firearms Centre's hunter educator program was shipping a video that implied all firearms were designed to fail, and instructors had to stand in a particular arc to be more safe. I gave them an earful.)

On the internet the Spanish FR7 and FR8 seem to have the lead as 'dangerous guns'. My friend Colin did some primary research on this question. http://zoneballistic.com/colinsballistics/fr-8.html

I have posted this before, and STRONGLY encourage all FR7 and FR8 shooters to educate themselves.
 
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